Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Daytop Village
Population increase
Anonymous:
DCA= Department of Consumer Affairs. You can claim that they can handle anything thrown at them, but you can't say they help people. Not every program fits every person. Since Truth is your Username, maybe you should practice it. The Truth is, they try to help people. Not evryone gets help from this type of treatment. Instead of being so negative about what positive inpact the program has had on some you may want to advise truthfully and educate people about what does work wityhin the program. The Truth is they assist people with being Honest with themselves. They assist people to take responsibility for themselves. The Program does not change people, people change themselves. The Program (Daytop) can only guide them You get out of the Program (Daytop) ehat you put into it. I have seen hundreds of people that they could not help be referred out to other agencies for the appropriate care. The Truth is you know little about Daytop and Treatment. :exclaim:
odie:
The truth is I know a whole lot about Daytop including a lot of their dirty laundry they don't want public. Pardon me for posting anonymously but it was in mistake. Now you say that you have seen hundreds of people referred elsewhere by Daytop. That seems quite a small number considering how many intakes they have. I guess you must be one of those newbie staff members that haven't seen the light yet and I hope your do otherwise all your dreams will be crushed.
Anonymous:
Well Odie, Again you have it wrong. I 'm not a newbie. In fact I don't even work for Daytop. I did and although I did not agree with everything that Daytop did, I do know that they try to Help people. Does everyone agree with everything their employer does? The thousands of clients or residents that Daytop treats are spread out over a Large number of facilities. The large number comes from the fact that Daytop can and does help people. If your concerns are true, I would suggest you encourage people who need help to seek it. If you don't believe Daytop is appropriate for some individuals then you have a moral responsibility to suggest an agency that can help. You are very pre-occupied with bad rapping Daytop. If you feel your concerns are valid then you should express your bad experiences and also mention the good Daytop does. It is very easy to sit back and criticize an agency or Bad rap them. The fact is and you know it, Not every program works for everyone. Each person has individual needs. Those needs must be addressed. Daytop does address people?s needs, but can't help everyone. Remember that when a person is seeking help they need to get it. Telling people that Daytop only hurts people is wrong and you know it. Give both sides of the story. I know you have seen people do well at Daytop. They did well because the program works. In addition you should support people and encourage them, not try and minimize accomplishments of individuals and programs. Remember Honesty is the best policy.
odie:
Daytop's modality of treatment is outdated and while at one time it served its purpose it no longer does. Sure Daytop helped some people and I am a perfect example but it failed to evolve from its roots of archaic ritualistic bullshit. They attempt to turn people into robots and when the machines rebel they are ostracized. I was a victim of misguided loyalty until I finally saw the light and moved on. I will be eternally grateful for my Daytop experience only because it made me a better person after I left it, both personally and professionally.
Anonymous:
:D :D :D :D :D I have to correct you again Odie. Daytop's modality is not outdated. It has evolved as addicts have evolved. I am very happy to hear some acknowledgement of success and I am very happy for your success. Daytop has modified treatment greatly. You may find it interesting that Daytop has been accredited by both JCAHO and CARF. I would suggest you research these boards of accreditation and look at the standards for accreditation. These boards are the ones who certify and accredit hospitals. They are thought to be the leading ethics and standard setters in the field of health and medicine. If Daytop was as abusive or harmful as you suggest they would never gain accreditation. In fact some specific facilities have been recognized by various branches of government, medical institutions as well as scholars. I agree that at certain points in the past some of Daytop's tactics seemed outdated, But so did the field of substance abuse. With the proper funding and education to the field the tools used to treat addicts have progressed tremendously. Daytop does not create robots they help individuals become independent from substance abuse. I to am grateful for your experience. I am also sorry you had a bad experience. Some times things just don't fit. The truth is that people are helped at Daytop. As well as other programs. It would be great if anyone wanting help could get it. The field will continue to grow and I hope that Daytop and other programs will grow with it. Good Luck and I wish you continued success.
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version