Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Hyde Schools
Scary Larry back on campus!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous:
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--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---It must be that you need to be very passive to be a hyde parent.
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To be sure, some consideration can be lent to this as well.
But let's consider, for a moment, Hyde's position on parental involvement, so finely put into words by Joe (color emphasis added):
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Since kids--and their parents--have been far more immersed in this counter growth culture than has Hyde, Hyde can be far more objective about how to best address the true growth needs of kids. And given the limited time available, Hyde insists on being the final judge on growth issues. We are in a better position than parents to determine a student's true best, and further we consider our commitment to help each student realize that best a sacred trust.
So--Yes, we may be wrong, and thus we appreciate all the input we can get. However in the end, we urge parents that until graduation to defer to Hyde's judgment, not their own. To instead accept their own judgment becomes a clear statement to their children that the Hyde experience is simply an add-on to old family dynamics, and not a new beginning for the entire family.
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So... Hyde expects parents to be involved vis a vis the seminar process, but to defer final judgment to Hyde when it comes to interpretation of such, not to mention all else.
We know little of Hyde's response to the parents' certain alarm in this case. However, given Hyde's response to other legal circumstances they have found themselves in, it would safe to say that they probably acted in Hyde's own self-serving interests, and not in the best interests of the child. It is likely that their actions may even have been quite proactive, in an attempt to stave off potential need for litigation.
Were thinly veiled threats insinuated? Were the circumstances significantly downplayed? Was there an attempt to redistribute responsibility? What kind of pressure did Hyde put on the parents?
I think one also needs to consider the fact that the parents in this case were of a different generation than most of the current set of parents, and that questioning the "authority" of Hyde would have carried a heavier psychological onus than we would ordinarily consider justified.
In the end, Hyde's "commitment to help each student realize {their} best" was far less of "a sacred trust" than the student or parents were led to believe. Just about the only thing that appears "sacred" here is preserving the appearance of the old Blue and Gold.
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One thing we know about Hyde is that the school's grasp of the concept of character is terribly shallow. They are skilled at trotting out the nice-sounding terminology and make it sound like they're authorities on character. But, beneath the thin Hyde rhetoric is a bunch of simple minded thought-control machines.
I've met very few Hyde staff who are truly independent thinkers. Most spin out the Hyde jargon like they're rehearsing for a play. The behavior of lots of Hyde staff belies the school's lofty claims about character education. When you sign up for Hyde, you're signing up for a very odd collection of staff, some of whom haven't rid themselves of their own personal demons, some of whom can't seem to function outside of Hyde's protective cover, some of whom lack character in any significant depth, some of whom should not be teaching anything in the classroom given their own questionable academic backgrounds and qualifications, some of whom have engaged in scandalous behavior.
Why would any parent pay close to $40,000 for this kind of environment?
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Hyde prides itself on its unique character education model that equips students to make it successfully in life. Has anyone come across solid data on the percentage of Hyde graduates who make it through college? I'd like to know what the percentage is, especially if you subtract out the kids of faculty and other kids who don't arrive at Hyde with major problems. If you take Hyde's large group of "turnaround" kids, what percentage make it through college?
Ursus:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Hyde prides itself on its unique character education model that equips students to make it successfully in life. Has anyone come across solid data on the percentage of Hyde graduates who make it through college? I'd like to know what the percentage is, especially if you subtract out the kids of faculty and other kids who don't arrive at Hyde with major problems. If you take Hyde's large group of "turnaround" kids, what percentage make it through college?
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What about the kids who might have had no problem getting into college before Hyde, but who were too traumatized after Hyde to even try?
What about those phony "grades," one part character growth, one part academics, where if the teacher or the school did not like you, or felt that you were "deficient" in the character department, the academic portion was somehow artificially depressed?
What about the kids who left during one of the many purges, or whose parents pulled them out before graduation, and who had difficulty obtaining their transcript from Hyde?
What about those obnoxious letters sent along with the transcript detailing the so-called difference between a "diploma" and a "certificate," and how and why you failed to obtain the diploma?
It would appear that Hyde finds ways to make academic progress difficult for students who are not in agreement with the school, even though academic achievement is allegedly considered separate. In certain cases, I personally would not consider sabotage to be too strong or harsh a term for it.
Anonymous:
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--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Hyde prides itself on its unique character education model that equips students to make it successfully in life. Has anyone come across solid data on the percentage of Hyde graduates who make it through college? I'd like to know what the percentage is, especially if you subtract out the kids of faculty and other kids who don't arrive at Hyde with major problems. If you take Hyde's large group of "turnaround" kids, what percentage make it through college?
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What about the kids who might have had no problem getting into college before Hyde, but who were too traumatized after Hyde to even try?
What about those phony "grades," one part character growth, one part academics, where if the teacher or the school did not like you, or felt that you were "deficient" in the character department, the academic portion was somehow artificially depressed?
What about the kids who left during one of the many purges, or whose parents pulled them out before graduation, and who had difficulty obtaining their transcript from Hyde?
What about those obnoxious letters sent along with the transcript detailing the so-called difference between a "diploma" and a "certificate," and how and why you failed to obtain the diploma?
It would appear that Hyde finds ways to make academic progress difficult for students who are not in agreement with the school, even though academic achievement is allegedly considered separate. In certain cases, I personally would not consider sabotage to be too strong or harsh a term for it.
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I remember on one of these threads some one with a story of how, Legg I think it was, described in detail the character faults that lead to a failure to receive a diploma when forwarding a transcript to a college one ex student was applying to.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Ursus"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Hyde prides itself on its unique character education model that equips students to make it successfully in life. Has anyone come across solid data on the percentage of Hyde graduates who make it through college? I'd like to know what the percentage is, especially if you subtract out the kids of faculty and other kids who don't arrive at Hyde with major problems. If you take Hyde's large group of "turnaround" kids, what percentage make it through college?
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What about the kids who might have had no problem getting into college before Hyde, but who were too traumatized after Hyde to even try?
What about those phony "grades," one part character growth, one part academics, where if the teacher or the school did not like you, or felt that you were "deficient" in the character department, the academic portion was somehow artificially depressed?
What about the kids who left during one of the many purges, or whose parents pulled them out before graduation, and who had difficulty obtaining their transcript from Hyde?
What about those obnoxious letters sent along with the transcript detailing the so-called difference between a "diploma" and a "certificate," and how and why you failed to obtain the diploma?
It would appear that Hyde finds ways to make academic progress difficult for students who are not in agreement with the school, even though academic achievement is allegedly considered separate. In certain cases, I personally would not consider sabotage to be too strong or harsh a term for it.
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This is yet another astonishing form of Hyde hypocrisy: Attaching those patroizing letters to transcripts alerting recipients that the student fell below the silly Hyde character threshold. If only Hyde would also attach a letter alerting recipients about the number of Hyde faculty and staff who fell below the character threshold. Isn't it remarkable that Hyde feels so free to judge students and parents but is so unwilling to face up to the remarkable litany of character horror stories involving the school's very own faculty and staff?
You can't make this stuff up. Hyde deserves a place in the hypocrisy Hall of Fame (or Hall of Shame).
Anonymous:
aw, lol. jes fake it till you make it. thats what the Hyde pro's do
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