Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Hyde Schools
Scary Larry back on campus!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ursus:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---It seems that Joe and Ed cannot agree, because a teen who has consensual sex with an adult is either responsible for her actions or not. But Ed and Joe are making the same assumption that the rape took place in a vacuum. The child was prevented from speaking to police, counselors, or anyone outside Hyde. She was subjected to the censure of the community, led by Ed and Joe who were of different minds. In a community meeting Ed bitterly intoned that the girl was responsible for her rape and had "compromised the integrity of the school," as if underage party and adult party to consensual sex are equally to blame. On the other end of insanity, Joe held that she was not responsible for her rape, not because she was innocent of any wrongdoing, but because as a flawed product of a flawed culture she didn't know the meaning of responsibility, and Hyde had to teach it to her as one teaches obedience to a dog. The students rallied behind their favorite authority: Ed or Joe. No leniency and understanding were shown to the girl. That's how Hyde handles rape. It's a wonder if she did not lose her sanity along with her virginity.
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I don't believe "consent" was given. I don't believe consent was asked for.
If you want to slime someone into doing something you want, and there's a very high likelihood that you are going to get a "no," you don't ask them. You find some way to maneuver them into a situation where protestation is minimized or even eliminated.
Was SF able to present evidence of carpet burns from when he pulled her into his apartment? Or was it more subtle? He pulled her in to show her something "special?" Perhaps the completion of the assigned schoolwork was somehow involved. Somehow or other, I am sure he played on her innate abilities to feel guilt or shame. Guilt of what I have no clue. But one thing is certain: guilt and shame were certainly exploited in the aftermath.
Ursus:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---...On the other end of insanity, Joe held that she was not responsible for her rape, not because she was innocent of any wrongdoing, but because as a flawed product of a flawed culture she didn't know the meaning of responsibility, and Hyde had to teach it to her as one teaches obedience to a dog. The students rallied behind their favorite authority: Ed or Joe.
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From what I recall, everyone appeared to more or less rally behind Ed, regardless of their inner thoughts about the matter. I don't think we had much of a choice. Joe was supposed to work on his book that year; he wasn't even supposed to be in the picture to any significant degree. Ed seized the case as a rallying call to wrest the prime moral authority from Joe.
They allowed SF to stay out most of that year, enduring all the humiliation and ostracism in the hopes of graduating. Shortly before graduation, around this time of year if I recall correctly, there was a purge. Ed made a list of students who had "attitude problems." SF was summarily excised, and that was the end of the matter as far as Hyde was concerned.
Jesus H Christ:
if(attitude problem == thoughtcrime)
{print "you are at Hyde;}
else
{you may be some place normal;}
Ursus:
--- Quote from: ""JoeSoulBro"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Joe: blames the system
Ed: blames the victim
Bob: blame free
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In a nutshell.
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Joe: Hyde as the solution
Ed: Hyde as victim
Me: Hyde as unindited co conspirator
It is great how false dichotomizing an issue can divert you from the obvious: Hyde negligent in it's duty provide a safe environment for it's charges. Hyde, the great picker of character, had a drunken letch on the fast tract to leadership. Hyde's failure to discern the nature of a staff member lead to one of it's charges to be put into a situation where, instead of an educational experience that lead to emotional and spiritual grow, a life long emotional scar was left.
"lies that life is black and white spoke from my skull I dreamed"
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Methinks we are all of the same or similar mind on this, Bro and Guest(s)...
My concern is that these types of incidents will continue to happen (e.g., Dubinsky et al), because the conditions that spawn them have not changed. Perhaps they can not change, as they are integral to "how Hyde works."
Jesus H Christ:
Cherchez La Femme
Why would Ed blame poor Sabina? Perhaps because it diverted attention from the fact that he was the guy that picked Bob as his lieutenant.
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