Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS)
Majestic Ranch info please
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-06-02 19:09:00, Pls help wrote:
"hi. What is bbs? is it the internal email system? I am curious to know if there is some kind of charity set up to genuinely help families (particularly the kids) who have been harmed by these places. Something about the stories I have read on these sites has really hit a nerve. I am waiting for my copy of help @ any cost to arrive but has there been any long term studies on what happens to the kids when they get out? This is an issue that people outside of the us know NOTHING about.That book is not even available in international bookshopsit needs to be ordered through Amazon. I am aware that the US is one of the few countries to not sign the un declaration on the rights of the child but a widespread education campaign is needed to uncover this. Would anyone be interested in speaking with Amnesty Internatioanl and broadening the campaign against these places? I only stumbled across all of this info by mistake afterall."
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This is an issue that people INSIDE of the US know little about---due in part to the misinformation spread on forums like this. What happens is, people buy into the drama, catch on to the cause---much as it seems you're doing---without knowing the facts, or having any genuine experience. They gallop away on their white horses, raise a ruckus, and then find out they were wrong about it. There are so many good schools, and the work they do is so important, no one takes the crusaders seriously. Long run: the schools that are doing real harm, and hiding out quietly, continue to thrive.
I urge you to go see for yourself, if you're in need of a cause. Your niece does not belong at MR, but you probably know very little about the kids who really need a place to go in order to heal from addiction. These schools provide an essential service that is lacking in most places. Most are doing a spectacular job of saving families. Don't believe me . . . GET OFF YOUR COMPUTER AND GO SEE FOR YOURSELF.
katfish:
--- Quote ---On 2006-05-31 15:54:00, Anonymous wrote:
I am assuming that if you are lobbying to get the place shut down you are in contact with the office of george miller. Obviously these wwasp people have a stanglehold of power in utah. What about the more moderate states? What are they doing to get them shut down.
I have gotten my brother to agree to let my niece come to australia for a holiday over the summer holidays for a few weeks so that @ least buys time & puts her where i can see her. "
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A START has formed a state policy committe to study the issue from state to state which will then give avocates data to work with. A youth, parent and staff survey is also due to come out sometime soon, i understand.
http://cfs.fmhi.usf.edu/projects/ASTART.htm
katfish:
--- Quote ---On 2006-06-03 12:15:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-06-02 19:09:00, Pls help wrote:
"Would anyone be interested in speaking with Amnesty Internatioanl and broadening the campaign against these places? I only stumbled across all of this info by mistake afterall."
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i'm sure many kids would, i've been in contact w/ Human Rights Watch. This was through a professor for a human rights class project who had some HRW contact. They haven't picked up, but I planned on writing soon. Usually they require a large numer of youth- not sure why they haven't persued anything though.
We've been working on centralizing the youh pop @ http://www.cafety.org
Oz girl:
i am not suggesting that every institution that takes boarders or works with Kids in crisis should be shut down. I am saying that given the amount of links & information I have been given which indicate abuse, there is obvously a severe problem with an industry which is not always regualated and that people outside the USA know nothing about this. We do know about other human rights abuses though. Moveover I would love to visit some of these places particularly when they are being considered as a place to put a loved one but A) I live in Australia and B)visits seem to be highly discouraged until the institution decides it is ready for a kid to see its family & even then it is only the parents. The MR website itself made this clear that is why I did nore research to find out why. Surely if a kid is truly troubled & needs to be removed from the family there should be as many attempts to keep the family together as possible. When kids are denied food, family contact and medical treatment until they behave better it is a breach of the un declaration on the rights of the child & it is not unreasonable to suggest that international pressure needs to be placed on the country who allows this. If this is not occuring there should be no issue with strict nationwide regulations to protect kids. Particularly Kids @ risk.
You are right I have jumped on the bandwagon because someone i love could potentially be hurt by what seems to be a major palyer in thhe industry & my capacity to help is limited. Kids need as many adults in their community looking out for them as possible. This does not just mean the nuclear family.
AtomicAnt:
The USA is one of the very few countries that have NOT signed the UN declaration of Rights of the Child. Why? Because the UN declaration forbids capital punishment for minors and the UN declaration forbids a sentence of life without the possibility of parole for minors. There are States within the United States for allow for both of these sentences.
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