Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
Vulcan Challenge - Fire Element
Troll Control:
http://www.uia.net/~messiah7/brk_fringepsych.htm
"Attack therapy is an outgrowth of ventilation therapy. Here the patient becomes the subject of verbal abuse, denunciation, and humiliation. This assault may come either from the therapist in individual session, or from peers in a group context.... As one critic put it, 'Tact is "out" and brutal frankness is "in." Any phony, defensive or evasive behavior... is fair game for... critique and verbal attack."
Sitting on the hot seat and verbal confrontation emerged from "human potential" centers, and were used extensively in LGATs:
"Another variant of the confrontation therapies appeared in the commercially sold large group awareness training programs such as Mind Dynamics... and Lifespring..... Marketed to individuals, organizations, and business and industry as experiential education, they typically use powerful psychological and social influence techniques, not always bringing about the advertised claims of success and profit to the buyer, and sometimes bringing psychological distress to the clients" (Pp. 113-114).
It is noteworthy to mention that every single program that uses "seminars," "propheets," "marathons," "workshops" - call them what you will - employs harmful derivations of the Lifespring LGATs, a concept that was completely discredited by mental health professionals decades ago.
--- Quote ---Also, do you see confrontation and skillfull challenging as the same thing in therapy?
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No trained therapist would view these two concepts as similar.
Anonymous:
In regards to the difference between confrontation and skillfull chanllenging, I sometimes think that confrontation is what people think entirely goes on at Hidden Lake, and in the early days I would tend to agree. While I was at Hidden Lake, I saw both. Again, this is why any program like this needs experienced, licensed therapist.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-06-09 05:59:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:
"http://www.uia.net/~messiah7/brk_fringepsych.htm
"Attack therapy is an outgrowth of ventilation therapy. Here the patient becomes the subject of verbal abuse, denunciation, and humiliation. This assault may come either from the therapist in individual session, or from peers in a group context.... As one critic put it, 'Tact is "out" and brutal frankness is "in." Any phony, defensive or evasive behavior... is fair game for... critique and verbal attack."
Sitting on the hot seat and verbal confrontation emerged from "human potential" centers, and were used extensively in LGATs:
"Another variant of the confrontation therapies appeared in the commercially sold large group awareness training programs such as Mind Dynamics... and Lifespring..... Marketed to individuals, organizations, and business and industry as experiential education, they typically use powerful psychological and social influence techniques, not always bringing about the advertised claims of success and profit to the buyer, and sometimes bringing psychological distress to the clients" (Pp. 113-114).
It is noteworthy to mention that every single program that uses "seminars," "propheets," "marathons," "workshops" - call them what you will - employs harmful derivations of the Lifespring LGATs, a concept that was completely discredited by mental health professionals decades ago.
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Also, do you see confrontation and skillfull challenging as the same thing in therapy?
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No trained therapist would view these two concepts as similar.
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Though I agree with some of the things stated in this paper, it is not a scientific study as much as it is an opinion. Again, I think(and this is just my opinion, not scientific) these exercises can be either good or bad depending on the professional that is facilitating them. It is not the type of therapy as much as it is the ones facilitating it. This brings us back to the point that Len Buccellato will never spend the money it will take, nor create the type of healthy work environment it will take, to attract and keep people that can effectively pull off this type of therapy.
Troll Control:
--- Quote ---Again, I think(and this is just my opinion, not scientific) these exercises can be either good or bad depending on the professional that is facilitating them
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I guess we just disagree professionally here. I really see no benefit from these exercises. Even if there is some benefit when facilitated by educated, experienced therapists, it surely isn't the best method available - not by a long shot.
--- Quote ---This brings us back to the point that Len Buccellato will never spend the money it will take, nor create the type of healthy work environment it will take, to attract and keep people that can effectively pull off this type of therapy.
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Now this we can agree on...
RobertBruce:
In my time there if an inmate did not perform their vulcan challenge up to snuff they were automatically dropped.
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