Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
Vulcan Challenge - Fire Element
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---The same can be said for any kind of therapy. How much it is internalized and affects someone for the positive is largely up to the individual. My point is that this individual was certainly not damaged through this experience and it made her look at herself differently for a while. Whether or not she chose to continue looking at herself in a more positive way years later is her decision and will certainly be affected by other life experiences and decisions she makes. Again, I do see how an exercise like this, or any other therapeutic exercise, can be harmful when facilitated by an inexperienced and unskilled therapist."
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Take a look at your last statement and then think about all the turnover lately at HLA. The undertrained, inexperienced, unskilled transients going thru that place are in charge of facilitating these intensely personal and highly subjective and suggestive sessions all done in front of a group of other kids. Recipe for disaster.
Troll Control:
--- Quote ---Again, I do see how an exercise like this, or any other therapeutic exercise, can be harmful when facilitated by an inexperienced and unskilled therapist.
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HLA has only a single licensed counselor. I can't see how any of their other personnel can be viewed as "therapists." Most don't even have a mental health-related degree.
Therefore, this type of "therapy" (I disagree wholeheartedly with your assessment, but that's a different issue) should never be practiced at HLA, as every single counselor (save for one) is not educated or qualified to perform therapy of any kind, would you not agree?
Deborah:
As frequently happens, this discussion has moved from a girl who was forced to stand before her peers and recount the details of a rape?. To a girl who sang i feel pretty and danced to it.
The original poster wrote:
I was told of a girl who, for her "Vulcan Challenge," was assigned by the
counselors to stand up in front of the entire student body and recount, in detail, being raped. Rape victims are sometimes not required to testify in open court, yet this poor girl was forced to relive this horrific event in front of everyone. Therapeutic? I don't think so. How is this benefitting this girl? "tell us your
'issues' and we'll violate your confidence and further traumatize you."
It?s not like these kids are playing charades with a group of caring friends, or divulging their deepest wounds to a trusted friend.
Who decides what the ?issue? is and presents the challenge?
Who makes the assessment that the kid is stable enough to divulge intimate details of a rape or any other abuse, or ready to challenge a long standing fear or insecurity?
Is it a requirement or a dare?
What happens if they refuse?
What happens if they crash and burn, and more humiliation is heaped on what already exsisted?
A therapist can challenge- encourage and support- a client to ride a roller coaster in hopes of helping him overcome his fear, but they can?t ?force? him. Kids in programs aren?t given this consideration. Why?
Is there research to support this ?therapy? or is it more of Wasserman?s ?experimental?, confrontational therapy like the infamous Profeets?
http://www.heal-online.org/cedu.htm
once in a profeet they made a black boy wash Michaels feet. Michael thought he was like God , he called him the N word while this person washed his feet. They would accuse the boys of performing beastility acts on the animals, I dont know for fact if that happened but I was told it did as a punishement for the boys. I was blamed for my mother's death. I actually grew up after that believing that my actions as a Teen caused her to die, when in all reality, I was acting out because when I was 5yrs old, i was in a foster home, and was molested continually. I never said anything, until it was too late. We would remain in these Profeets until everyone snapped and I never recall any food in there, we did get bathroom breaks and water breaks.
To the ex HLA counselor posting- what genre of therapy does this "exercise" come from? What were you taught in college about forcing patients to divulge sensitive material in front of their peers? How were you trained by HLA?
Anonymous:
I am the ex-counselor that has been posting. I whole heartedly agree that forcing a kid to detail the accounts of her rape is wrong and offers no benefit to the child. I am amazed if a child was forced to do this. I also agree that the counselors at HLA need to be better trained. I do not think the have to all be licensed, because you have to be in the field for three years before you get your license. What does need to happen is that HLA needs to have several licensed staff that are giving direct day to day supervision of the non-licensed staff. Currently, HLA has one person doing the supervision of all their counselors. That is an impossible situation and a detriment to the kids. Dr. Buccellato will never put forth the money that it would take to properly supervise all of the counselors at HLA.
Dr Fucktard:
To hell with all of that licensing crap -- that's for eggheads and "professionals". Professional help, my ASS! :roll:
You want to get a kid straight? Make him face his peers; they are the only ones who will be tough on him! After all, "you can't con a con" as they say.
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