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Anonymous:
The program saves our lives from what they would have become.  No, we didn't have life threatening diseases before the program; we did however make life threatening choices.  It's true what you say, I?m sure many of those who claim the program "saved their lives" would have eventually snapped out of the pattern of life we were living before the program, the problem is that so many poor choices are made until we "snap out" of it that our lives can be ruined.  For example, before I was sent to the program I was a high school drop out, before dropping out I maintained a 1.9 gpa, I was regularly using drugs, selling drugs, and participating in several activities that would have put me in prison for year had I been caught.  I was 17 when I was sent to the program, and my life had been violently spinning out of control since I was 13, I'm sure eventually I would have gotten over it, maybe after some serious prison time, or maybe even just a few short years later.  The problem is I still would have been a high school drop out with no real future!  Thankfully my parents intervened and sent me to the program, I graduated after 11 months and made my way back out into the world, the future is certainly brighter for me today, and I owe much of that to the program, which I graduated 6 years ago.  I'm a senior in college now, maintaining a 4.0 gpa, and I will be attending an Ivy league graduate program in the fall.  My plans for the future are promising and exciting, so much different than what they would have been just a few short years ago before the program.  Don't bother arguing with, or criticizing my post boys, after all life certainly is based on results, you can call it program jargon if you want, but it's the absolute truth, look at bill gates, Donald trump, or even Oprah, i'm sure they would agree it's results that matter more than anything.  You can come on here and rant and rave about how the program is abusive, and how you were mistreated while you were there, but then we look at the lives of the countless teens like myself who?s lives were literally saved in these programs and we are faced with a choice, believe those who claim abuse, or those who are thriving in life and grateful for the time in the program, sorry boys and girls but our voices, examples and results are and always will be louder and stronger than a few whiney voices claiming that the programs don't work!

Anonymous:
Either a troll or bullshit.

I'm going to guess... both.

MightyAardvark:
hey anon, my email is mightyaardvark@gmail.com
I would just love to find out your experiences in these programs, to find out where you are now and what you're up to. I mean my research is nothing if it's not even handed.
Email me if you really wanna tell your side of the story.
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Anonymous:
Just spoiled brats who think their minor teenage antics amount to a death defying experience. Their rich parents pay to have them forcibly brainwashed to learn this. Obviously some minds are more accessible than some. You are just seeing the result of brainwashing, and how effective it can be on some people.

Anonymous:
Results are everything?

That depends on the results.

One of the great problems with our society is that it seems to reward behavior and attidutes that we specifically teach our children to be wrong. Very often, greedy, selfish, people who have no moral compunctions against the exploitation of others to obtain fame and wealth for themselves are rewarded. They are 'successful.'

People with compassion, a sense of fairness and justice, a sense of service to others who wish to make a positive difference in the world are often excluded from positions of wealth and power because they are not willing to make the kinds of choices needed to aquire this kind of success.

Having worked in the corporate world for over 20 years , I can attest to difficulties confronting ordinary people when they are required to make decisions where the bottom line over rules common decency and basic values. People often rationalize to defend decisions that advance their careers at the expense of acting in a way they know to be right.

Maybe programs achieve results, maybe they don't and we have seen many threads and arguments surrounding the efficicacy issue without any convincing outcome for either side. So I will not argue whether or not programs achieve the results you claim.

Instead, I will hope that as you go through life, you will come to understand that results are not as important as you think.

As an employer, I once attended a training seminar in which they taught that managers should not be judged as much on the results of their decisions as they should be judged on the method by which the decisions were made. Results are tricky things because there are so many factors beyond our control.

It has often been said that, "The ends does not justify the means." No where is this more revelant or important than in considering these programs. The rationalization that these programs are the 'last resort' does not fly. That argument is nothing but an excuse. Torture is not justified by saying it works. Torture is not justified by saying nothing else worked and there was no other option. Torture is never an option.

It is never acceptable to treat human beings the way they are treated in these programs. The results are not important. Kidnapping are programming are not acceptable methods; not even if the intention is to save someone's life.

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