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nalex18:
Hey everyone,

I posted several times a while back in the long thread about ASR as a guest. ( I just went through the whole thing, and wow, what a disaster!)

 I wanted to give anyone who wants to a chance to talk to someone who went to ASR. I went there 2002-2003 so I cannot comment on how the school is doing currently. If anyone has any questions about what it was like or anything like that, I will answer as best as I can.


-NA

nalex18:

--- Quote from: ""Three Springs Waygookin"" ---Do they restrain kids at ASR?

What passes for staff training?

Do they have a level system?

What about parent contact? Phone calls, home visits, campus visits? Are these rights or earned privelages?
--- End quote ---


When I was there:

1) No, kids were NOT restrained

2) I do not have the knowledge to answer this question

3) Yes, they did. There were, if I remember correctly, 4 levels.

4) Phone calls were once a week with the amount of time increasing as you progressed in the program. Until the end of the program you could not make phone calls without staff in the room.
There were 2 home visits and one hotel visit. I don't know that the hotel visit was a right. Unless you were dropped peer groups you were able to go on home visits as scheduled.

5) Campus visits were basically limited to ones that were scheduled (family resolutions). Parents were STRONGLY discouraged from coming and it was a big no-no for a kid to ask their parents to come.
I remember a mom came to drop off some things for her child and later the girl was told it was "not right" that her mom had come.

Oz girl:
what would happen to a kid who did not want to talk during group therapy?
Did they still use Bans to prevent some kids from forming friendships?

Did any kid ever refuse to send the letter home outlining their sins?

nalex18:

--- Quote from: ""Three Springs Waygookin"" ---What was the education program like?

Did they accept anyone to the program?

What passes for therapy?

Who approved level advancements and how where they approved?
--- End quote ---


1) The education program was poor. We did not even have a full set of encyclopedias. Some of the teachers were good, others did not seem qualified to teach the subjects they were.

2) I'm not sure what "anyone" means but essentially, yes. They definitely took kids that they did not have the means to treat. (for example, eating disorders)

3) If someone was on medication (and a lot of kids were) you saw an individual doctor. You also have therapy within your group and then once a week in a mixed group with kids from many other "peer groups". There were special groups and "life steps". Lots of crying, yelling, etc. Some of the things that went on in group I believe was wrong.

nalex18:

--- Quote from: ""Oz girl"" ---what would happen to a kid who did not want to talk during group therapy?
Did they still use Bans to prevent some kids from forming friendships?

Did any kid ever refuse to send the letter home outlining their sins?
--- End quote ---


1) If someone refused to talk in group they would often be placed on a Reflection, the lightest of the consequences. You would receive a folder with a "truth list" and writing assignments to do things like "Why I feel I don't have to talk in group".

2) Bans were used to prohibit relationships being formed that the school thought to be "unhealthy". Bans included simply looking at another person. Bans could span from one person, one sex, a portion of the school (ie lower school), or the entire school.

3) I'm sure that some did, however you could not move forward in the program without doing so, so I think that most kids gave in and did it.

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