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Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-04-26 17:18:00, Irish Mom wrote:
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On 2006-04-26 16:02:00, Anonymous wrote:
"What the hell type of treatment is withholding condiments????
So if someone has a meth addiction, the first step in treatment is to deny ketchup, syrup, mustard and pepper?
Whether or not the rule still exists, it serves as useful insight into the intelligence of the trolls."
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Wow, I hope that reference to "trolls" wasn't directed at me. I just relayed what I knew to be in effect while I was there. Never said I agreed with it. :eek: "
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No, not directed at you! Obviously you are a valuable source of info and not the dimwit who wrote the Staff Handbook.
Irish Mom:
--- Quote ---On 2006-04-26 17:53:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-04-26 17:18:00, Irish Mom wrote:
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On 2006-04-26 16:02:00, Anonymous wrote:
"What the hell type of treatment is withholding condiments????
So if someone has a meth addiction, the first step in treatment is to deny ketchup, syrup, mustard and pepper?
Whether or not the rule still exists, it serves as useful insight into the intelligence of the trolls."
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Wow, I hope that reference to "trolls" wasn't directed at me. I just relayed what I knew to be in effect while I was there. Never said I agreed with it. :eek: "
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No, not directed at you! Obviously you are a valuable source of info and not the dimwit who wrote the Staff Handbook."
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Whew! Okay, I can breathe again...lol
Irish Mom:
--- Quote ---On 2006-04-26 18:04:00, Three Springs Waygookin wrote:
"Maybe it is just me, but it seems to me that a certain percentage of the kids must at least be infuriated with their parents enough to the extent of not even wanting to bother with their phone calls?
Does this ever happen?
Any priest or shaman must be presumed guilty until proven innocent.
--Robert A. Heinlen, American science-ficiton author
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I remember a couple of times where some of my girls refused to talk to their parents. They were so angry at them for one thing or another. Sometimes it was for putting them in the program and sometimes it was for things that happened after they were already there. It was really hard to not say anything negative about their parents to them, but a lot of times if you did they just ended up defending them, so it was best to not say anything about their parents. I would just let them vent if they needed to.
I just had the hardest time as a parent to understand how you could send your child away at the absolute hardest time in their lives. I remember other staff telling me to just wait until my child was a teenager and then see what I had to say, but I still to this day know that I would NEVER send my child away for others to deal with their problems. Isn't that why we have kids, to raise them ourselves?? Maybe that's naieve on my part...who knows?? :???:
Anonymous:
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I just had the hardest time as a parent to understand how you could send your child away at the absolute hardest time in their lives. I remember other staff telling me to just wait until my child was a teenager and then see what I had to say, but I still to this day know that I would NEVER send my child away for others to deal with their problems. Isn't that why we have kids, to raise them ourselves?? Maybe that's naieve on my part...who knows?? :???: "
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I'm in a pickle right now and need to decide quickly whether or not to attempt to send my kid to Horizon Academy. To answer your question, though I'd love to raise my kid. The problem is he won't let me.
Here's the scenario. My kid has been failing in school since the fifth grade. He's in High School now. He's had multiple truancies. Now a few months ago he and a friend decide to steal a tip jar that had $37 in it. On the surface this doesn't sound like a big deal, but the District Attorney charged him with Comercial Burglery, a felony. The kid that was with him, caucasian, was let off with a lesser charge. Nevermind that kid was in Opportunities for Learning. The place they send kids who were kicked out of regular school. My son could be sent to the California Youth Authority for one to three years for this. He was even given the opportunity to get the charges removed if he did community service and improved his grades. He hasn't done this. The only way I can make him go to school would be for me to quit my job and follow him around 24/7. That's not an option by the way.
I've been going to counselling and have attempted to take him. He's disappeared for many appointments. During counselling it was suggested he might of Oppositional Defiant Disorder. It was suggested that I ask his school to test him. I've atempted to do that, but they've taken months. Now it appears they'll be too late to help. I've also sought local psychiatrists to test him, but that wasn't overly helpful. I suppose I could try again, but I'm out of time it seems.
My question to people here is would he be better off in Horizon Academy or in the California Youth Authority? I'm pretty sure in the latter he'd be mixed with kids that are hard-core criminals, mine isn't there yet. Is there something better that I can do? He has to go to court on Friday morning so I need an answer yesterday. He's either going to jail or this program. I don't think they'll wait for me to have him tested by a psychiatrist.
Worried Dad:
The above post about my kid about to go to the California Youth Authority is mine.
Before you judge me as a bad parent, I have an 18 year old son that's doing okay. This child though doesn't listen. I can't control what he does when I'm not home. I try to show him I love him and that I want the best for him. He seems mentally ill in my opinion.
Before anyone says I should have hired an attorney for my son, I did. He wasn't able to convince the DA to lower the charges. My son is guilty of that crime if you look at the letter of the law too. This whole situation is insane.
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