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« on: May 04, 2006, 02:49:00 PM »
First off I want to say that this is the end, no more. This has been going on for too long now with no end in sight.

I've been avoiding looking at/posting on this sight for two months out of fear of what i might find. No,i have not read all of it and I dont think i ever will.

No,i most certainly would not have been happy just sitting at SCL, and i nearly peed my pants when i was told i was coming home. So to all those that did send letters i can't expess enough thanks in this little box.

This site was started to help get information about the facility i was at. Information that probably would have been useful before my getting sent there. It didn't end there as you all know.The "school" monitors this webite quite closely, of course and from there my parents were informed about it and so on. It really is a shame that it turned out to be a battlefield more as opposed to a source of information. If only more parents discovered ths site before sending their children there maybe it wouldn't occur as often as it does. There are too many kids there that really don't deserve to be isolated from society. One of them was Nick Thomas. The boy who froze to death with his mother in those goddamn mountains. From everything i heard from him and others a SCL he most certainly was not an "outofcontrol teen". That makes three lifes taken by that place i you count the suicide last year.

but thats all. Like i said this is the end. Thank you to EVERYBODY for caring about me, but I won't let this go on any longer. Aunt Pam if you feel so strongly about something and I want you to vent call me or call my mom, but all you do when you post is cause destruction and i won't let it go on any longer.

            Love, Alex.
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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2006, 03:33:00 PM »
Point should be well taken. This is exactly what many people have feared was going to happen. The good information on this site is buried and all the fighting, name-calling, criticizing, destructive comments are taking the forefront. How sad. Sure, some are trolls, I?m not naive to that. But many are regulars on this forum and have been around a long time. They spend much of their time posting on Fornits, it seems to be their lives. Or at least a large portion of their lives. They cannot rest when things are going smoothly, when information is being disseminated. No, they have to come and stir things up, get people off course, throw a wrench in relationships, and so on. People need to realize there are but a handful of people doing this and in the big scheme of things a very small number of people on this forum at any given time (check ?who?s online? and you?ll see that most often times there?s about a dozen people is all.) So, in the scheme of things it?s a very small minority of people causing something that could have and should have been good to be bad.

I know if I were a parent looking for information and found this site I would not take anything seriously simply because so much of it is nothing but crazy folks hashing things out and trying to mess with other people's lives.  

Maybe the folks are not crazy but they come off that way to the average person. I have known many people who used to visit this site who have not for a very long time because it is depressing and destructive. People here seem to have a need to trash other people. They do not understand or realize the damage it causes to others.

I am just about there, where Alex is. If there is not some form of control taken here and if the fighting continues to go on then I will take the same position.

I don't think some people realize the power of the written word. I am sick and tired of the destruction, of watching people over and over again getting trashed who don't deserve it. Most of the people whose names get smeared don't come here to defend themselves, most of them anyway (I guess the only time you can and it's OK is if you are a former Straight-ling - otherwise you are nothing here, it seems). They either find the posts themselves or are warned about them by others. Most of the cruel comments are unwarranted and untrue. That's the very sad part.

I come here looking for news and information. But the information I find lately and the posts I find lately are very disappointing. None of you who are doing this are doing the cause any good at all. You are feeding into exactly what the other side would like you to do. Go ahead and tear this post apart if you want. Say anything you want, I don't care. Have fun. But if you would take even a moment to think about what I'm saying I think you would agree. Or not. Whatever.
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2006, 03:48:00 PM »
To Alex - I absolutely agree with your post, and wish you nothing but the best now and in the future.

To the Anon who thinks Fornits is not living up to it's legacy, I suggest you read the message up in the left hand corner:

"IF YA CAN'T FIND SOMETHIHNG OFFENSIVE HERE, CHECK YOUR PULSE OR CLEAN YOUR CONTACTS" (Eudora)

Your criticism is what makes Fornits great but if you don't like the show, there's a door you should look for and walk through (hint, it says EXIT above it).  Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.  

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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2006, 04:53:00 PM »
Welcome home, Alex.  You had a lot of people pulling for you and I'm glad you are back where you belong.  

Each one of these stories is worth every minute I've ever spent on here.  

Good luck.
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2006, 05:24:00 PM »
Thanks for writing Alex. I wish you all the best life has to offer. I was where you stand today. I have come a long way myself. That is not to say everything will be easy for you. To get anywhere in life it takes hard work, and determination.

I apologize if I contributed to some of the drama. We are not all perfect, and I found myself acting downright immature at times.

I hope eventually you are able to work things out with your parents. My mom passed a few years ago........and my dad and I re-connected 7 years ago.

I always regret, as so does he that we didn't do it sooner. We didn't talk, or see one another for 10 years. He was the one I blamed for my 4 years of stay between Heritage School/Cross Creek Manor since it was his, and his bitch of a wifes idea to send me away, and he footed the bill. With step-monster gone....we have a great relationship.

My dad is 86 years old, and I see him 6 times a year. I don't have much more time to fly and see him. I am 33 years old (may 30)and he treats me like his little girl when I visit. There are always fresh flowers in my room when I arrive. He wakes up early to make coffee, and breakfast for me, He never lets me get up from the table, or wash a dish. He is making up for lost time.

I hope you, and your folks are able to bond again. No family is perfect, but right now I want you to do whats best for you.
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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2006, 07:11:00 PM »
Alex, glad to hear from you and glad things are working out alright. Sorry if any of this has caused you pain or trouble. It's a gambit, but hopefully worth it.

All the best. Contact me anytime you please or not, your call.

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I am just about there, where Alex is. If there is not some form of control taken here and if the fighting continues to go on then I will take the same position.

I don't think some people realize the power of the written word. I am sick and tired of the destruction, of watching people over and over again getting trashed who don't deserve it.


People use this forum for all kinds of things. For some it's a way to find old friends. For others it's a source of research material for  journalism, litigation or personal interest. Some people look here for therapy and personal insight (bad move most of the time, if you ask me). For some it's a singles bar. Some are just mad clowns, satirizing the whole thing.

To each his own, but none of these things are my core reason for starting this. My primary purpose for starting these sites is so damned simple nobody seems able or willing to beieve it. Rampant talking out in group. Each manifestation or branch off of the Synanon cult has their own private lexicon, but all rely heavily on extreme control of communications. I believe that is The Lnchpin®. Pull that out, let people speak freely at will to whomever they chose about whatevery they wish and the whole thing unravels.

Darlin', this is a reasonable representation of the nature of the Toughlove hate group.  Ugly, isn't it? But this is nothing, NOthing! compared to living it in real life, 24/7 w/ no escape and at the direction and compulsion of your own natural family.

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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2006, 08:49:00 PM »
Alex ? Hang in there and welcome back, there are many people who visit this site on a regular basis and hear the stories, good and bad, so your words are not wasted on deaf ears a lot of people are listening.

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I know if I were a parent looking for information and found this site I would not take anything seriously simply because so much of it is nothing but crazy folks hashing things out and trying to mess with other people's lives.

Maybe the folks are not crazy but they come off that way to the average person. I have known many people who used to visit this site who have not for a very long time because it is depressing and destructive. People here seem to have a need to trash other people. They do not understand or realize the damage it causes to others.

I am just about there, where Alex is. If there is not some form of control taken here and if the fighting continues to go on then I will take the same position. ??


Thank you, also anon, for that post, you have no idea how difficult it is to keep a discussion on topic, try to present a point a view or problem solve an issue thru from ?Root cause? to ?possible solutions? without name calling or driving the discussion off topic.  In defense to some of the regulars I have to say that they have been communicating in this manner for so long it has become second nature and trying to step back and take a new perspective or follow any natural evolution of the industry is very difficult when you have been working the same story for so long.  The industry may change and improve and they will never know it happened

If we could turn the discussions around and allow some new blood to enter (myself included) with new ideas the forum may brighten up and yield dividends that the parents and kids can benefit from.  The continuous bashing of people who have been hired and fired from places like HLA serves only to run down this site and discredit the authors.  Anyone in business knows that all business?s go thru this (Expansion/ deflation) hiring the wrong people, it is not a reflection on their output or intent, it just immaturity on the part of the posters.  Continuously ramping up the anger and driving parents away because they cant make a believer out of them in 2 hours is short sighted and serves to hurt the children in the long run.

I realize there is a warning upon entering this site, but it would be nice to come up with something to help these kids.  Everyone seems to get caught up in winning an argument.

Anyway, my two pennies, if this is trolling, I am sorry, try to get over it.
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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2006, 08:50:00 PM »
Sorry forgot to log -in.  Again!!!!!!

Last one was mine.
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2006, 11:08:00 PM »
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you have no idea how difficult it is to keep a discussion on topic,


Ironic as you went completely off-topic with your post. No need to respond, we don't want this thread going even MORE off topic!  :wink:
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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2006, 07:19:00 AM »
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?So ... start=1305


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On 2006-05-04 16:58:00, StepLeft wrote:

"Happy to see you are out and doing well Alex.



I have been reading this site from the beginning.

I understand why a lot of people here are on Ashley and Leslie's side. With them being on our side saving Alex someone that was where we were years ago. What we would have loved to happen to us. I have spent years in therapy. I have learned I believe a lot here and there. My parents went through a lot of emotions and therapy also. They were never sure with any choice they made in my life was the right choice with me or any of us kids was right or not. In some ways they wish they never would have sent me and in some I think they still believe it is what they had to do at the time. I am ok with that now. We all agree now that place should be there but these place need to be closed and schools should be regulated and these seminars should be changed to focus more on self help. I did need a wake up call. For sure. But these parents that put these 12 year olds and kids that sit there for years I am not getting started.. I was luckier then a lot of you. I was only there a short time. It is easy for us to say don't send your kid there we have been there. Sounds like His parents are trying I believe Ashley or her mom said they are going to Therapy with Alex. There is a lot we don't see that goes on behind the seen's we forget about. We should try to be far. Good luck to all

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Unfortunately the bridge incident is true. He told us himself, and so did the escort. The vadalism was quite obviously someone else considering Ashley worked that night and then was home with her mother and father all night. Granted the dealer worked with Ashley, but Alex met him all on his own.










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I have a question. Did you actually speak with the escort service or did you hear this from your daughter?"






   

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Yes, his name was Russ, from 2nd Chance Transport Service.




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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2006, 12:53:00 PM »
And your point is?

Did you not catch the topic title "The End"

Let's end this thread!
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