Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS)
WHAT ABOUT THE PARENTS?
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-04-26 21:16:00, TheWho wrote:
"Why is everyone blaming the parents? I sent my daughter to a TBS and it isn?t my fault, wasnt my daughters fault, No siree, It must be my parents fault, it was the way I was raised. They didn?t train me properly, so they lacked parental skills which were never handed down to me. If I were them I would be mad as hell that they were never made aware of this by their parents? what is this world coming to, I wish they would log in, I would rip them apart, what were they thinking their own granddaughter for Christ sake, who taught them this stuff!!!
Anyway, she came thru it okay as do the majority of kids, with a little help from the school and family as did myself and generations before us, and so will the ones to follow.
[ This Message was edited by: TheWho on 2006-04-26 21:22 ][ This Message was edited by: TheWho on 2006-04-26 21:28 ]"
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Well, it would've been nice if you could've taken care of biz on your own without sending your daughter away to strangers. But, whatever.......your choice not mine.
Just another generation of your family being totally disfunctional. Not surprising, sounds like you come from a long line of idiots.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---At the time we had never heard of WWASP.
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If you had been able to read this forum and WWASP literature before placing your child, would have considered WWASPS over wherever you sent your child?
The Liger:
I read and post at an attachment parenting forum. In a nutshell, attachment parenting is basically: "a philosophy based in the practice of nurturing parenting practices that create strong emotional bonds, also known as secure attachment, between the infant and parent(s). This style of parenting encourages responsiveness to the infant or child's emotional needs, and develops trust that their emotional needs will be met. As a result, this strong attachment helps the child develop secure, empathic, peaceful, and enduring relationships."
I have noticed lately that many of the people who subscribe to this type of parenting are totally hypocritical when their children become teenagers. For example, this lady yesterday posted this story about her 15yo daughter who had a physical fight with the dad. They called the cops on her. The cops said if they didn't pick her up in 24 hours, she would be placed in foster care. So they told the cops to keep her. She casually mentioned that the daughter blames the parents for the older sister committing suicide. Then she mentions that she's looking into a "tough-love" camp to put her in. She said she wanted advice.
All these people replied with "Oh you poor thing" and the like. When I replied, I pointed out the hypocrisy of being a member of an attachment parenting board and posting about tough love options. I pointed out that the daughter is likely acting out because of trauma from her sister's death, and maybe they should get her into therapy, etc.
The lady totally lashed out at me, saying that she doesn't need any extra guilt. I wasn't disrespectful at all, but she told me to stop responding to her posts. She said that the daughter is totally disrupting the family. They have a bunch of younger kids that they need to worry about.
It seemed totally obvious to me that she wanted to get rid of the daughter and wanted other parents to coddle her over her decision. Basically, this woman had made up her mind before she asked for advice. She wanted to get the okay from her peers. And, for the most part, she got it.
I tend to think that most of the parents who send their kids to WWASPS or similar programs have the same attitude, the same excuses. That's why they're so easily sold on the programs. They are looking for someone to say, "Hey, it's not your fault." And they get that from the people selling the program. They want someone to tell them that what they are doing is the most loving thing they could do. So they welcome these reassurances from staff and program parents.
So yes, I think parents are to blame.
BUT, I think it is counter-productive to waste too much time on it. If you want to convince parents that WWASPS, et al. is bad, and you know the parents want to be coddled, then try to market them the way WWASPS does: "Oh you poor parents, duped by the big bad corporation." It's a means to an end, really.
TheWho:
--- Quote ---On 2006-04-27 08:43:00, Anonymous wrote:
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At the time we had never heard of WWASP.
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If you had been able to read this forum and WWASP literature before placing your child, would have considered WWASPS over wherever you sent your child?"
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No, I would not have. I am not sure where I would have ended up. I think the choice I made was a good one, but I got lucky. After reading this forum, in hind sight, I might have made some bad choices.
Anonymous:
Please remember that WWASPS has great marketing and are great liars. A few years ago when I was looking for a school for my teenager, there were not the sites that are out there now that show the other side.
We thought we did our best to check out a school that was out of the country. We were giving our child an opportunity to get out of his rut and experience culture change and catch up in school. He was not a bad kid, and we were not trying to get rid of him. We physically checked the school, talked with many parents that had their child there, talked with many employees about how this school was run. They all had the same story, as they are taught to give, and we thought we were doing our child a favor. They out and out lied to us on many issues. Of course, when we found out what was really happening, we got him out and have been fighting side by side together making sure that this doesn't happen to others.
You can go check on a kennel for your dog, see the wonderful place that it will be staying, talk with the great people that will be giving your animal love while you are gone and feel great that you have chosen this place for it. There is no guarentee that when you drive out, that your dog is put in this great enviroment. They could have been hiding the discusting back rooms where they really keep the animals and you would never know it.
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