Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
Rats are scurrying....
RobertBruce:
--- Quote --- How can you trust the web site!! And you establish she is unqualified?.Hmmmm..and you stated HLA needs oversight
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While I can see HLA embellishing its staffs credentials I cant see them making them appear unqualified. Do you have a basis for this argument or are you just clutching at straws? Oh and yes HLA needs a great deal of oversight.
--- Quote --- Again, these seem to be your personal requirements. I was looking more for some established/acceptable guidelines, by someone who is more qualified than yourself.
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Interesting coming from you, the guy who consistently talks about things he knows nothing about. I was offering my personal opinion as did you on the matter. As to what the state requires I could only guess. However a few well placed calls to the board of education or the health dept should answer those requirement questions. Irregardless however it would probably be a safe bet to say some amount of credentials are required. Since we have established according to HLA's information these girls have none they would appear to be in violation.
--- Quote --- Maybe a doctor or nurse who is not on staff seeing that they fired the nurse. Any interim process would not be reflected on their website, unless they were using ?realtime? data flow.
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No we no for a fact there is no doctor on staff nor is there any visits made by any doctor or nurse, to see patients or otherwise. Thanks for trying though.
--- Quote ---It doesn?t seem that a problem has been established. A nurse was fired, and a person with unknown credentials is dispensing the meds, that?s all we know. Is it a red flag? You bet. Is it a problem? We don?t know. Do we know what is required? No
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Many many problems have been established. You are fixated on trying to discount this one desperatly wanting to prove a point that you dont have. How much sense to even a simpleton like yourself to say that in any state in the US that school nurses are not required to have any education or training whatsoever nor are they required to be supervised. Think really.
RobertBruce:
--- Quote ---On 2006-05-28 20:58:00, TheWho wrote:
"Its getting late, got to run. Let me leave you with these thoughts which I think should help resolve the issue.
1) Find out and/or define what is an acceptable process for dispensing meds (Chain of med handling down to the dispenser).
2) Determine what their present (interim) process is.
3) Determine the credentials needed to dispense medication in Ga.
4) Determine the credentials of the person dispensing the meds today at HLA.
Compare Items 1 and 2 This will tell you if HLA?s process is out of control. Compare Items 3 and 4 This will tell us if they have unqualified people.
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Youre the one interested you find out.
In the meantime the parents can be left with this:
HLA currently has no trained or qualified staff attending your childs medical needs including the dispensing of meds.
The state of GA in all likelyhood has certian requirements that need to be met concerning providing medical care or handling medication.
You pay almost 100,000.00 dollars to have your child taken care and they are being denied proper care.
Demand answers to this and the dozens of other established problems brought up by the people posting on this site. Remember your child cannot speak to you freely.
TheWho:
--- Quote --- HLA currently has no trained or qualified staff attending your childs medical needs including the dispensing of meds.
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This, once again, is just a guess. They lost an employee and need to backfill like any other company does everyday.
--- Quote --- The state of GA in all likelyhood has certian requirements that need to be met concerning providing medical care or handling medication
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This is just a guess, like saying Microsoft is probably violating some OSHA requirements. But nobody has checked because they probably meet all standard practices, as do most schools. If they are so desperate to discredit HLA you would think they could just find one requirement they violate
--- Quote --- You pay almost 100,000.00 dollars to have your child taken care and they are being denied proper care.
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Sorry this statement is false, he obviously doesn?t know what he is talking about. Claims to know about HLA and what is going on ?.. Interesting ?? no credibility left.
--- Quote --- Demand answers to this and the dozens of other established problems brought up by the people posting on this site. Remember your child cannot speak to you freely.
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Yes, you should always ask questions, but the above shows someone pulling the fire alarm again and again and a again only to find no problems. Remember no facts have been presented.
Anonymous:
Seems like the only rats that are scurrying are Dysfunction and Robert Bruce. HLA clicks along.....
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RobertBruce:
--- Quote --- This, once again, is just a guess. They lost an employee and need to backfill like any other company does everyday.
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Afraid not. HLA list its staffs credentials on its website. Not only do they not have any medical staff being listed, but they have a person filling in who apparently neither went to college or was trained in any professional manner.
--- Quote ---This is just a guess, like saying Microsoft is probably violating some OSHA requirements. But nobody has checked because they probably meet all standard practices, as do most schools. If they are so desperate to discredit HLA you would think they could just find one requirement they violate
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Again you speak on a matter you know nothing about. This board has been nothing but presenting violation after violation after violation on HLA since its inception. Most of which are fully documented and can be verified independently. You however are still stuck on this one problem because you think can prove or disprove something when anyone with half a brain knows HLA is in violation here. Are you honestly going to argue that the state of Georgia has no minimum requirements for who can be handling medication or serve as a school nurse?
Here I'll make it easier for you this is from the national council of saftey boards of nursing.
Here's what defines a nurse: Advanced nursing practice" means practice by a registered professional nurse who meets those educational, practice, certification requirements, or any combination of such requirements, as specified by the board and includes certified nurse midwives, nurse practitioners, certified registered nurse anesthetists, clinical nurse specialists in psychiatric/mental health, and others recognized by the board.
And here's what they can legally do: "Practice nursing" or "practice of nursing" means to perform for compensation or the performance for compensation of any act in the care and counsel of the ill, injured, or infirm, and in the promotion and maintenance of health with individuals, groups, or both throughout the life span. It requires substantial specialized knowledge of the humanities, natural sciences, social sciences, and nursing theory as a basis for assessment, nursing diagnosis, planning, intervention, and evaluation. It includes, but is not limited to, provision of nursing care; administration, supervision, evaluation, or any combination thereof, of nursing practice; teaching; counseling; the administration of medications and treatments as prescribed by a physician practicing medicine in accordance with Article 2 of Chapter 34 of this title, or a dentist practicing dentistry in accordance with Chapter 11 of this title, or a podiatrist practicing podiatry in accordance with Chapter 35 of this title.
Now given the fact that these two receptionist apparently never went to so much as community college please tell me how you feel they arent in violation?
You get back to me.
--- Quote --- Sorry this statement is false, he obviously doesn?t know what he is talking about. Claims to know about HLA and what is going on ?.. Interesting ?? no credibility left.
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You still seem to feel credibility with you matters. All you do is talk about matters and concerns you have no knowledge of and seek to appear educated on matters you know nothing about. But I'll give you a chance to elaborate.
Please tell us how regurarly denying children toilet paper or routinely forcing them to go for days at a time without running water is somehow okay. If you can argue that it is I have many other issues Id be interested in hearing you try to defend.
--- Quote ---Yes, you should always ask questions, but the above shows someone pulling the fire alarm again and again and a again only to find no problems. Remember no facts have been presented.
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HAHAHAHA please tell me how you know no facts have been presented...since the fact remains you know nothing about HLA?
Parents you can choose between the person who belongs to a group of people who have worked at HLA, lived at HLA, or had a child placed at HLA versus one jackass who has never seen it, never set foot upon it, never dealt with it, and knows nothing about it. Which of these two is going to be the more credible source?
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