Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
Rats are scurrying....
TheWho:
--- Quote ---On 2006-05-30 04:09:00, SHH wrote:
"Assuming some staff dont have all their credentials listed on the website, how do we REALLY know she isnt qualified? I think the only staff with credentials listed on the website are counselors and teachers and upper management. Maybe she has CPR training...maybe she was a nurse's assistant at a previous employer. Does anybody REALLY know? I know Robert THINKS he knows based on what the website says. But does anybody know for sure? "
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Exactly, Why does he avoid trying to understand the facts
TheWho:
--- Quote ---RobertBruce wrote: I didnt jump to any concluscions. I proved that an unqualified person was dispensing meds.
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Actually it was an anon post,
It has been confirmed that Tracey Kimbrell, the school nurse LPN was fired last Friday..Maybe
parents should look into who is going to be distributing the 'correct' psychotropic drugs to your children.
here is a link
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?So ... 1&start=30
--- Quote --- RobertBruce wrote: I provided the regs which determine who is qualified to dispense meds.
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UHmmm, Okay , again, that was someone else, Deborah provided that information Take a look:
Update:
Georgia
Education Rule 160-4-8-.01 (2000) requires each school system to develop a Student Services Plan that provides guidelines for its various components including school health services. The state's School Health Nurse Resource Manual provides suggested models for each school system to implement the rule. Each model includes administration of medication as a school nurse function.
Here is a link.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?So ... &start=104
--- Quote --- RobertBruce wrote: I explained how the students were in danger, I evn eshot down your comparrison between public schools in similar situations and pharmacies.
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Here is where the facts lead us:
Conclusion: The expectations of the state is to have a Nurse manage the dispensing of all medication in a school setting in the State of Georgia.
So When HLA lost their Nurse they fell below expectations outlined by the state of Georgia and I agree this is something the parents should be made aware of.
Also when placed in perspective HLA was providing better services than 75% (exceeding expectations) of the school districts (based on the 2000 study) in the state of Georgia and then joined the 75% (majority) population when they lost their Nurse and the duties were off loaded to a secretary. So they are in line with the rest of Georgia schools.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?So ... &start=118
Okay so lets see what you have really contributed over the past several pages. I will use your own words:
--- Quote ---RobertBruce Wrote: Jumping through all my hoops, biting every time I baited you?.
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This exposes your immaturity.
You added absolutely no value to the conversation except to try to avoid the facts and attempt to deflect the topic onto something else. If you really are in a graduate program at some point you will be asked to defend your position or a paper you have written by your professors and if you try baiting them or avoiding the facts (like you stated that you do here) you will fail miserably. If you find this does work you should check to see if your school is accredited.
There are many of us here who are interested in the truth and providing credible information and if your previous 1,000+ posts are in any way like the past several pages then you have done yourself, fornits and the kids a great disservice.
Anonymous:
You are disgusting..THis is the problem with Fornits, when garbage like you is allowed to
fornicate on this web site...It undermines everything which is good ...
Troll Control:
Wow. Go away for a few days and look what happens.
I think there are some salient points being missed here. HLA is not a "school," as it claims to the state of Georgia. It is a watered-down psychiatric facility that is improperly labeled as a "school" and which does not comply with state regulations for either a school or an RTC.
Since they deal with psychiatric cases (they claim that the vast majority of their attendees are diagnosed with ODD, although there are severely disturbed patients there as well), it is wrong and unethical not to have a full-time medical staff, wheteher or not it is against the law - it doesn't pass the smell test.
Many of these kids are on several medications that need to be monitored, yet there is nobody there doing it because they fired the nurse for economic reasons, not poor performance. So, by their own choice, Who, they decided not to have a nurse there. This is not a vacated position that is going to be back-filled. HLA has made a policy decision to have no medical staff at a facility where there are severely disturbed kids and the vast majority of their population is on meds.
This is a disturbing set of circumstances and one which should be rigorously questioned by the parents of the patients.
Deborah:
Who, how did you form this conclusion:
"Also when placed in perspective HLA was providing better services than 75% (exceeding expectations) of the school districts (based on the 2000 study) in the state of Georgia and then joined the 75% (majority) population when they lost their Nurse and the duties were off loaded to a secretary. So they are in line with the rest of Georgia schools."
This is 2006, post legislation. Are you saying that 75% of districts currently have no nurses?
I couldn't find anything to support that.
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