Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
Rats are scurrying....
SHH:
I dont know which doctor they would call on unless they use the ones they had on campus before...but since I used to live there I will tell you that town is 9 miles away and the hospital in town is 10 miles away. They do have lifeflight available, but it would be quicker to dispatch an ambulance in a true emergency. Also, the Army Ranger camp is less than 2 miles the other direction, and they have medics and a medivac helicopter too. The school is out in the country, but, not THAT remotely located that medical help cant be obtained in a relatively short period of time.
RobertBruce:
--- Quote ---On 2006-05-29 14:32:00, TheWho wrote:
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--- Quote ---Robertbruce said: Are you honestly going to argue that the state of Georgia has no minimum requirements for who can be handling medication or serve as a school nurse?
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You are all over the map, stay focused. I will try to say it again. We need to establish the requirements that are needed, as a minimum, to dispense drugs. Then compare the requirements to what is actually being done at HLA. Then we know where they stand. I never stated there were no requirements by the state.
After all this we still have not established that there is a problem at HLA in regards to dispensing drugs.
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Dont blame me for the fact that you cant keep up. It isnt my fault youre so limited. Ask for help if you need it.
Let me dumb it down for you further.
Say that you are correct, HLA isnt violating any standards or laws. That it is perfectly legal to have an untrained, un qualified, unsupervised receptrionist passing out meds.
Does that make it okay? Would you as a parent paying close to 100,000.00 be okay with such an arrangement?
Shouldnt that amount of money buy some amount of security for your child?
Given all the other basics cut off and the often substandard kliving I would think this just might set some parents off.
TheWho:
--- Quote ---Dont blame me for the fact that you cant keep up. It isnt my fault youre so limited. Ask for help if you need it.
Let me dumb it down for you further.
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Okay the class bully, I remember you, you peaked out in highschool.
--- Quote ---Say that you are correct, HLA isnt violating any standards or laws. That it is perfectly legal to have an untrained, un qualified, unsupervised receptrionist passing out meds.
Does that make it okay? Would you as a parent paying close to 100,000.00 be okay with such an arrangement?
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I am not right or wrong, I am not taking sides, just trying to determine if there is a problem and how serious it is and work thru each issue.
If they had a process in place that would ensure the kids get the proper medications until such time as they can hire a new nurse and they were in line with any other schools requirements in the state then ,yes, I would be happy. An employee quits or gets fired everyday, this isn?t unique, parents who are in business know this.
--- Quote ---Shouldnt that amount of money buy some amount of security for your child?
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I think that is the whole point of the child being there, for most parents, is to be in a safe environment.
--- Quote ---Given all the other basics cut off and the often substandard kliving I would think this just might set some parents off.
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It just might, is that your motivation to find something to set some parents off? Sounds a little immature.
RobertBruce:
--- Quote --- No, read my previous post as a result of Deborah?s data. I don?t think it included pharmacies. It was a way to align HLA?s present situation with State requirements/ recommendations, take a look. I think we can conclude the Meds issue and move on
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You brought up the pharmacy not me, now youre just trying to dodge the issue. I can see why you want to conclude the meds conversation to be over with, youre losing the argument and want to change the subject. Not uncommon here.
--- Quote --- Why do you get so aggressive and uptight? I think we are putting facts on the table and trying to resolve issues, at least I am, I don?t think I appeared to be afraid to address the issues. I think it is important to resolve or at least find consensus on one point at a time, you seem to jump around talking about kids not having enough toilet paper etc. when the issue on the table was dispensing meds.
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I explained to you last night, Im not agressive, Im just condescending and mocking towards you because youre a tool. Youve come onto a website discussing a school you know nothing about, discounting peoples experiences you know nothing about, and all the while claiming nuetrality while you ardently defend a school you again know nothing about. As to why youre afraid of the issues, I wouldnt know and again its not my fault you cant keep up with the pace of the convo. The issue for me has always been the truth about HLA. I will use any fact to expose that truth. Try and keep up.
--- Quote ---The next issue is since they fired the nurse they are in need of a medical person. This stinks all around (I have been there) and HLA is probably in scramble mode trying to get coverage in case of an emergency. This is not a unique situation we have had several schools in our district whos nursing position went vacant for over a 30 day period. It was not as critical, though, since they were not boarding schools and the kids went home everyday. But in any event the situation sometimes can not be helped and you have to deal with it, it may be the schools fault or the nurses fault.
So yes, the question needs to be answered what they do in case of an emergency. Some questions I would ask is do they have medflight in the area? A local nurse/doctor (not on staff) who is in the area that they could call on. None emergency issues could be handled through car pooling to the nearest doctor I imagine, so that?s not a big deal.
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Fine. Imagine you are a student at HLA. Youve just gone to see the receptionist who is playing nurse about a bad stomach ache youre having. Remember you attend a school that will not allow you to discuss with your parents about feeling ill and which holds a policy of "if the child is not visibly ill or injured assume he is faking." Now this receptionist allows you to lay down in the infirmary for a short time and then sends you on your way. You return later and she allows you some pepto. To the untrained staff you have a stomach ache, maybe youre constipated. If the problem persist you may be taken to the doctor in a week or two. Unfortunatly your appendix burst before you get a chance to see the doctor.
Do you see the problem now? Not all medical emergencies are as clear cut as a broken arm. These kids are in real danger and the school doesnt seem to care, all in the name of saving a buck.
--- Quote --- If I were a parent I would call and try to raise my comfort level a bit by getting answers to some of the aforementioned questions.
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I doubt you would care that much. [ This Message was edited by: RobertBruce on 2006-05-29 19:59 ]
RobertBruce:
--- Quote --- Okay the class bully, I remember you, you peaked out in highschool.
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nope still in grad school. Although i can see why you were picked on.
--- Quote --- I am not right or wrong, I am not taking sides, just trying to determine if there is a problem and how serious it is and work thru each issue.
If they had a process in place that would ensure the kids get the proper medications until such time as they can hire a new nurse and they were in line with any other schools requirements in the state then ,yes, I would be happy. An employee quits or gets fired everyday, this isn?t unique, parents who are in business know this.
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Okay but what about your kids medical care in the meantime? What if they werent planning on hiring a replacement?
--- Quote --- I think that is the whole point of the child being there, for most parents, is to be in a safe environment.
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Ummm you dont have to look hard for a dozen reasons why it isnt a safe place for children. Ask if youd like specifics.
--- Quote --- It just might, is that your motivation to find something to set some parents off? Sounds a little immature.
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My motivation is to see the truth about hla brought to light. If a few parents show some justifiable rage so be it. I dont know that that would be immature but since you brought it up, what is your motivation for being here? Is it mature?
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