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RobertBruce:
You know Who rereading your comments I thought it was interesting that you mentioned me pulling the fire alarm.

After you get done sticking your head in the sand on the subject of improper medical care would you like to discuss the alarming fire safety infractions they employ?

Anonymous:
This forum is a huge joke at HLA and your supposed truth-telling campaign has not affected them in the least. I checked with a current parent who has been monitoring the situation carefully and no one is quaking in their shoes over the power of fornits.
:silly:

Deborah:

--- Quote ---On 2006-05-28 17:28:00, TheWho wrote:

"I think they should be regulated by the state that they are in.  But I don?t blame the schools for this, the people need to push the state to enforce the regulations and over sight.  If we were not required to get a drivers license how many of us would have one and would that make us bad people or bad drivers?  Probably not.

--- End quote ---


I wrote:
As you well know Who, unlicensed programs are not required to follow state regulations. HLA is exempt- claimed to be a boarding school, "therapeutic" just a marketing tool.  

You responded:
I think it is important to distinguish between boarding school and ?Therapeutic? boarding school and market their target customers accordingly.
and
That?s exactly what I said.  TBS?s target and market to a very small fraction of kids.  They are non traditional.

It's a given that HLA has a target market and markets their customers accordingly- mute issue. That is not what they told the Office of Regulatory Services, which is the point. They claimed to be a Boarding School to avoid licensure and oversight.

You claim to support state regulation, but don't blame the 'schools' for lying about the services they provide in order to avoid state oversight?  

[ This Message was edited by: Deborah on 2006-05-29 10:30 ]

Deborah:
Not sure how all this debate over what's legal or illegal is useful to anyone, given that HLA is exempt from state regulations. If they were doing anything that violated state law, who would you report it to?

In terms of public schools and state laws:

State Laws- which would not apply to HLA anyway
http://law.enotes.com/everyday-law-ency ... g-medicine
Georgia has "no applicable laws" on the administering of medications.
 
Update:
Georgia
Education Rule 160-4-8-.01 (2000) requires each school system to develop a Student Services Plan that provides guidelines for its various components including school health services. The state's School Health Nurse Resource Manual provides suggested models for each school system to implement the rule. Each model includes administration of medication as a school nurse function.
http://www.healthinschools.org/sh/mgmtpolicies.asp

Pertinent to this discussion:
http://law.enotes.com/everyday-law-ency ... g-medicine
Seventy-five percent of reporting nurses in the 2000 study delegated medication administration to unlicensed assistive personnel (UAPs), with secretaries (66 percent) being the most common. Errors in administering medications were reported by nearly 50 percent of the school nurses, the most common error being missed doses (79 percent). Errors were commonly reported to local school and/or state authorities.
Faced with the growing problem of exposure to liability in conjunction with the administration of medicine (and in many circumstances, the administration of controlled substances), schools have mobilized over the years and demanded both guidance and protection from liability by state legislatures. Not all states have addressed the issue at the state level, and persons needing information are best advised to start with their local school districts.


http://www2.gsu.edu/~wwwghp/publication ... rt2001.pdf
Last year the Georgia legislature allocated $30 million in House Bill 1187, the ?A+ Education Reform Act of 2000? (A+), to augment funding for school health personnel. The goal of the legislation was to provide for healthcare personnel in every school in the state. Prior to implementation of this Act, Georgia lagged behind the rest of the country as one of very few states that did not directly fund school nurses or require health personnel in schools.
Study results at this link.


[ This Message was edited by: Deborah on 2006-05-30 08:04 ]

Deborah:

--- Quote ---On 2006-05-29 06:38:00, SHH wrote:

"If we were comparing this situation to my child's elementary school, then it would seem that his school is the same. In our school system, they cannot afford a nurse for every school every day. They have traveling nurses. The nurse visits my child's school once a week. However, on the days that she is not there, someone has to give out meds. In this case, it IS the receptionist, IE, the front desk lady who greets people and answers the phone. She is not a nurse, however, this appears to be fine to the school board. So, if Georgia has the same regulations as North Carolina, maybe its possible that in the event of a temporary absence of a nurse, that someone "designated" can dole out meds. Just a thought. But I do think the ACTUAL regulation should be determined for Georgia before conclusions are made as to whether this is illegal or not. "

--- End quote ---


Some of you just really can't grok the point that HLA is exempt from state regulations. Wouldn't matter if they were violating state laws governing RCFs or public schools. In the eyes of ORS, they are a private boarding school, based on the information HLA and/or their attorney provided. Who ya gonna call- Fraud Busters?

BTW, N Carolina could improve as well. Used to be that very few kids took daily medication. With the expolosion of psych meds (No Child Left Behind) millions now take behavior drugs (controlled substances) daily. They should be locked up and monitored by someone with a little more training than secretarial school.
An interesting discussion on the topic here, specifically re: NC teachers' concern about liability.
http://allnurses.com/forums/f49/dispens ... 14478.html

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