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« Reply #30 on: April 24, 2006, 06:33:00 PM »
Last one was mine
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« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2006, 06:41:00 PM »
No, you're backing off because I'm systematically owning your ass. Votes added. Close enough for government work. Heh.

And no, they don't take it into account. If they took it into account, they wouldn't have it this easy to fuck up in the first place.

You're still an idiot.

Everyone else, if you ever need to prove TheWho is an idiot, link to this thread.
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« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2006, 07:05:00 PM »
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On 2006-04-24 15:41:00, Luke Stephens wrote:

"No, you're backing off because I'm systematically owning your ass. Votes added. Close enough for government work. Heh.



And no, they don't take it into account. If they took it into account, they wouldn't have it this easy to fuck up in the first place.



You're still an idiot.



Everyone else, if you ever need to prove TheWho is an idiot, link to this thread.
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So you outsmarted the internet polling system at age 16, clap, clap by voting several times, no one ever thought of that before, I guess you are smarter than me after all, you are a shoe in for becoming a programmer someday.

You win
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« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2006, 07:28:00 PM »


 
   
 

     
       
         
     
           

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LYING TAKES MANY FORMS


           

By: http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/polls.html,
              and manipulated it in such a way that the person was able to vote
              for one selection at least 127 times in one session. This attempt
              to override the honest expressions of other participants' opinions
              was designed to create a perspective that did not honestly reflect
              that of the participants. In essence, this person was lying to
              everybody.


           

In our culture, people of good will have revulsion for those who
              prove to be liars. It seems this revulsion comes from an almost
              universal ideal. Even a pathological liar will often be incensed
              when somebody else lies to him or her. In our court system, it
              often happens that a witness's testimony is completely thrown out
              if it is proved that they lied on even a matter that had nothing
              to do with the case. In students placed in juvenile justice or
              parent choice residential programs, one of the most important issues
              the staff works with are the antisocial and personal consequences
              of that child's lying. Hacking is a rather despised activity because
              it pretends something that is untrue, and laws have been passed
              that have seen some hackers going to jail. We have even had powerful
              politicians forced out of office when it was determined they had
              lied to the public. Lying is one of the strongest taboos in our
              culture, at least as an ideal, and the revulsion felt by those
              lied to goes very deep.


           

Of course, we all know lying goes on all the time from little
              white lies to the BIG lie. However, the liar plays a dangerous
              game with potentially severe consequences if he or she is caught.
              Once caught, the liar has no creditability among honest people
              of good will.


           

The details of the manipulation of our monthly poll are as follows.


           

                 
  1. For months, the average votes in our monthly poll have been
                    about 100 votes a month.

  2.              
  3. On the morning of April 22, the vote total for the April poll
                    was 54 votes.

  4.              
  5. On April 23, the vote total rose to 185 votes, with one choice
                    in the poll increasing by 127 votes overnight.

  6.              
  7. A check of the site log for that page showed that 127 entrances
                    to the poll page in a short time had one IP number (a unique
                    number assigned to one computer during one internet session)
                    shortly before 10 a.m. West Coast Time. Only one category received
                    votes during that session.

  8.              
  9. At a few minutes past 10 a.m., West Coast Time, on Sunday,
                    an anonymous poster on the Fornits website posted a link to our
                    poll page and said "Heh heh" with a copy of the poll
                    with the results at 173 votes, followed later by approving comments
                    from other participants.

  10.              
  11. We waited through Sunday and Monday to see what more they
                    would do. The computer with the same IP number, and some other
                    computers, came to the site and brought the count up to 406 votes,
                    almost all for the same category. Fornits is a well-known discussion
                    board that is much more critical of private residential schools
                    and programs than public juvenile justice ones. The site allows
                    anonymous posters to say whatever they feel, often spiced with
                    profanity, vulgarity and sprinkled with four letter words.

  12.              
  13. We are sending a complaint to the owner of that IP number,
                    pointing out that one of their customers had abused their Internet
                    privileges.

  14.              
  15. We are freezing the poll and leaving it online for at least
                    the rest of the month with this explanation so the world can
                    see the results of this lie.

  16.            

           

This person(s) obviously has no respect for the people who expressed
              their honest opinions in this poll.


           

This person(s) obviously has no respect for the public who might
              be viewing this poll and are interested in learning the honest
              expression of the public's opinion.


           

This person(s) obviously is afraid to identify themselves and
              be accountable for their actions, choosing to hide behind anonymous
              manipulation and anonymous postings.


           

Results of this poll are obviously not valid, and only tell us
              that some people think lying is ok.


           

I have one question. Do the other people who hob nob with this
            person(s) on the Fornits website condone lying?


           

           
           
             
               
               
               
               
             
           
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« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2006, 07:44:00 PM »
344-127=   227

Heh heh.  

show some respect fellas... not that opinion has much to do with efficacy...

Lon's very dramatic about this whole thing- and (if what he's saying is true)that's just a big bummer for us, stupid thing to do... in a very tiny insignificant way...
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« Reply #35 on: April 24, 2006, 07:45:00 PM »
Let's put this into perspective, shall we?

This is an internet poll.  It's no surprise that the results can be manipulated.

Compare this with the type of lying that programs do when dealing with the lives of children.  "We feed them properly," "We don't lock them in isolation rooms,"  "We don't use LGAT seminars,"  "We're licensed,"  "We're accredited,"  "No severly disturbed kids are admitted," etc.

Let us not forget, Kristie, your company SELLS the lies above - the kind that hurt children.
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« Reply #36 on: April 24, 2006, 07:51:00 PM »
Hey Krisite- it's kat- I just posted above...  I went to school with Kristie- Lon's daughter who posted above...   :wave:

I don't know how many different ways the importance of efficacy can be made... RTC's don't work--- and it appears that these unregulalted RTC's are breeding ground for John Mercer's of the world.  Do you understand the significant damage John (and other people from other schools)have done to so many girls- doesn't this concern you in the least - taking even the most recent example of suicide given this poor girl was tromented at MMS (I have documentation) then harrased/threatened later for criticizing the  school's abuse?  
Doesn't it bother you that you and your father know so little about mental health and nothing is known about the way these places affect kids (except what many of us share on various sites), but that you continue to blindly support schools anyway and mislead parents?
Do you not consider this at all?

Even if a school helps 99 and harm 1, that would be unacceptable in the mental health field-- Thank god some of the wiser figures out there are taking positions on this like the ABA most revently.  Most reasonable folks would stop and reconsider their position and reasoning on such an issue, given such outcry that has and will continue to develop... there's just to much harm being done to justify an unregulated industry- end of story.  [ This Message was edited by: katfish on 2006-04-24 16:57 ]
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« Reply #37 on: April 24, 2006, 07:52:00 PM »
Paul seriously can't stop laughing.
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« Reply #38 on: April 24, 2006, 07:55:00 PM »
Neither can Luke.

Oh man.. hahahaha... he really thinks that an ISP is gonna... hahaha..

Why not just post a big sign on the front page saying HELLO, I AM A COMPLETE DOUCHEBAG, AND I KNOW NEXT TO NOTHING ABOUT COMPUTERS?

Thread of the century!
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« Reply #39 on: April 24, 2006, 08:04:00 PM »
There is another reason we should reject using ''evil'' to describe human action: evil is a thoroughly religious idea rooted in Christian theology. We simply cannot afford to let such religious categories guide our understanding of nondenominational and purely human problems. This is the same problem, in fact, that has led much of the world to view President Bush as not only an American president, but as a leader on a religious mission.  Lon using such catagories begins to oversimplify a view of the world in very  much the same way this administration does... it's a closing of the American mind.

Liars are evil= bah... lying is what humans do, period.  Lon needs to get of his moral high horse.
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« Reply #40 on: April 24, 2006, 09:15:00 PM »
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#  We are sending a complaint to the owner of that IP number,
pointing out that one of their customers had abused their Internet
privileges.


 :rofl: Freeping a poll is illegal now? This was too funny, thanks for posting it.

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« Reply #41 on: April 24, 2006, 09:17:00 PM »
I like the wording of this...

"Internet priviladges"

Uh, no, its not a priviladge. Its a service that someone paid for, provided by a company. But, it comes accross like someone talking down to a child they dont like. Well, it most likely was a teenager.... but still.

Also, the funny thing, is that if the code was written in such a way you could click it all you want, it wasnt abused. Its just a naive poll! It didnt check for the IP or a cookie, and.. well, the inevitable happened.

Furthemore if they just told a specific group of people to take the poll and say whatever, thats just swaying the pollers, not abusing the interent or the poll.  :lol:
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« Reply #42 on: April 24, 2006, 10:11:00 PM »
Hmm, intresting... I'll have to talk to lon about this one... he is treating it with abit more drama than is nessasary. Reporting to the Ip is not nessasary, and is like pulling all the furnature out of the room because one peice does not match. Its reacting to much... And accusing all of us of lieing is unacceptable. Ginger, you talk to him about that, I know I will.
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« Reply #43 on: April 24, 2006, 10:29:00 PM »
Ahh... we can always count on TSW to say something so offensively funny no one can get angry at him
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GAH!!!!

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« Reply #44 on: April 24, 2006, 10:48:00 PM »
Let me guess: Creative Insults 103, spring term, two weeks in?

I'd give it a C, but it deserves a B- for pure silly humor.

It's a shame that you have to say that one of us is imaginary, though. Being incorrect just never works with this sort of thing.
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