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Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2006-04-15 16:48:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Sure, I will talk to anyone who wants to talk to me.  I will try to message you.  



I do not mean to discount what everyone is saying on other forums about what they've been through.  Remember, I was in programs from 1992-1995, so I can't say what recent graduates went through.  



Cameron wasn't in charge of a program when I was at Cross Creek.  He was just a regular staff.  He used to organize games for us on the weekend, which was a nice change from the lame weeknight schedule of Zig Ziglar tapes and sing-a-long videos.  Anyone can change, and actually in light of those Hobbit pictures, I probably should have left him off my list of people who seemed to care.  It takes one sadistic fuck to actually plan a room like that, buy materials, envision how kids will fit inside, find a location away from the other buildings so you know it won't have heating during the Montana winter, and then build it and force a child inside against his/her will.  The doghouse I built last summer was planned with consideration for the weather, seasonal changes, entry, the view, etc.  That Hobbit is disgusting.



I was well behaved at Cross Creek.  As everyone knows, the better you were, the better you had it.  When I was there, they had locked isolation rooms, some with surveillance cameras.  

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Anon, your logic is clear, but you're relying on misinformation for your conclusions. From someone who knows, the building is pretty much in the middle of the campus, right next to therapists' offices and the dining room. It was always heated, and never even had locks on the door. There is no such thing as isolation, either. And your initial impression of Cameron is, in my opinion, pretty accurate: he's a good guy.

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---Anon, your logic is clear, but you're relying on misinformation for your conclusions. From someone who knows, the building is pretty much in the middle of the campus, right next to therapists' offices and the dining room. It was always heated, and never even had locks on the door. There is no such thing as isolation, either. And your initial impression of Cameron is, in my opinion, pretty accurate: he's a good guy.
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The other day you said the hobbit didn't have doors, now you are saying that it didn't have locks, but there were doors? Why can't you get your story straight. The hobbit did have locked doors, and even though it had a very basic heater, it was kept freezing at night, as documented in the Pure lawsuit with the boy who's orange froze. No such thing as isolation? The hobbit is isolation, you are making no sense. Cameron is not a good guy, he just enjoys being comandant of his own prison camp.

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2006-04-17 08:51:00, Anonymous wrote:

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Anon, your logic is clear, but you're relying on misinformation for your conclusions. From someone who knows, the building is pretty much in the middle of the campus, right next to therapists' offices and the dining room. It was always heated, and never even had locks on the door. There is no such thing as isolation, either. And your initial impression of Cameron is, in my opinion, pretty accurate: he's a good guy.
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The other day you said the hobbit didn't have doors, now you are saying that it didn't have locks, but there were doors? Why can't you get your story straight. The hobbit did have locked doors, and even though it had a very basic heater, it was kept freezing at night, as documented in the Pure lawsuit with the boy who's orange froze. No such thing as isolation? The hobbit is isolation, you are making no sense. Cameron is not a good guy, he just enjoys being comandant of his own prison camp."

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Entryway, silly . . . a door on the entryway to keep the heat in. It never had a lock.

Anonymous:
Yet it was cold enough for an orange to freeze. Riiiiiiiiiight.

Antigen:
The silliest thing about this conversation is that one side is going on personal experience and the other has only seen the brochure.
I can very well do without God both in my life and in my painting, but I cannot, suffering as I am, do without something which is greater than I am, which is my life, the power to create.
--Vincent Van Gogh, Dutch painter
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