Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS)
son in WWASP program
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---"Instead of the pizza -- uh -- coming to you... we'll come and pick the pizza up -- and uhm -- take it... let it get cooked for a little while... in that type of sense. 'Till it's ready to come home and then -- uhm -- get a brand new hot and good pizza."
Randall Hinton
--- End quote ---
This is who you entrust you child to.
Anonymous:
Probably anything is better than a son being on meth, right? I mean,that would be enough to scare the bejesus out of me.
It still doesn't detract from the fact that everything the posters say is true about WWASPS, and as a former program attendee myself, I can vouch for the fact that the "tools" don't work in the real world. In fact, when I ask former programmees who drank the Kool Aid to list the specific tools they learned, they can't come up with ONE. (Because we weren't taught any!) And They just go on the attack.
In addition, we were not given any kind of insight into our individual issues because the program is not equipped to mete out any real, individuated therapy.
These programs are built to shame you into submission, but often miss the mark in terms of finding the roots of your problem. The shaming is not of the healthy variety either. It involves group humiliation, emotional badgering, and coersion into admitting thinigs that are often only half true or patently false. (You give into the confessions to survive the program or you are in for one hell of an emotional beating.) In addition, the programs do not build you up emotionally--they tear you down and only build you up as a program robot.
Everything that was good, bad, and neutral about your life prior to WWASPS is given negative denotations. There is no discernment.WWASPS is King.
Your son may leave WWASPs and never return to drugs... But I wouldn't be surprised if he experiences a HoneyMoon period followed by years of difficulty because his psyche was toyed with and manipulated to stark degree. There will be something amiss inside, but he won't be able to put his finger on it for a loooong time, because it takes awhile for the Kool Aid to wear off. Twenty years later, don't be surprised if you find him on this site. You probbably won't even know to the degree he is impacted because it's not something we share with parents. (I should give you a list because former students of several programs share the same issues and we have gone into them in detail.)
Before you think that everyone on Fornits is a loser anyway, I should tell that many posters are very successful and look quite good on paper, and yet have experienced enough negative outgrowths from the programs to post regularly because they know "civilians" won't understand.
In fact, one of the biggest impacts of these programs is to feel disconnected from humanity and people at large on a very profound level while still wearing a smile on your face.
Badpuppy:
Please explain dad whether you apporve of a facility the uses solitary confinement as punishment?
Uses emotionally disturbed children to punish other emotionally distubed children?
Violates you childs constitutional rights to communicate without censorship to his parents.
and then claims to teach accountability.
Provides no classroom instruction?
Advertises a private prison as though it were a luxury resort?
Uses seminar techniques mental health practicioners consider to be on the same leval as past life regression therapy, alien abduction therapy, rebirthing, and other forms of absolute quackery?
Search for the International Action Survivors Committee.
Ask could all of the hundreds of kids with abuse stories be lying?
I have two graduate degrees, one in a mental health field from an Ivy League university. You have lawsuits against the WWASP alleging, fraud, child endangerment, false impisonment, and negligent child care. These allegations are consistant and true. Lawyers face grave penalties if they file suits without merrit. Take your child out now!!! He needs to be in a mental hospital as much for what was done to him in the WWASP facility as for his meth use. Please act immmediately.
[ This Message was edited by: Badpuppy on 2006-04-15 11:52 ]
Anonymous:
WWASP Dad,
I have been reading for a few days now the sound factual information these Fornit's folks have been providing for you.
I'm an exWWASP Mom. I attended all three seminars. I was at one time a programmed cult parent. I too thought my child was in good competent hands. He wasnt. He came home in worse condition than he went in. HE started doing drugs after he came home to deal with his anger and saddness the Program provided him with.He did drugs after he came home.Many of the wwasp kids I have spoken with have told me they did drugs after not before.
They are exposed to some disturbed kids in the Program. Normal or not they are all lumped together.
Here's a "challenge"; Next time you are on the BBS, write and question the quality of care and education the kids are receiving. Note the "feedback" from pro program parents. See if they are opened to discussing the possibilty that you parents have been MANIPULATED by the Program and NOT by your children.
Let me know the reactions . I'll be waiting.
BTW I no longer think WWASP is a good place for our children. I hate the lying pieces of shits.
Nihilanthic:
It almost always is, TSW. :lol:
The thing is, though, there are *TONS* of people lurking here who see what happens. We're doing it for their sake. The sad thing is the trolls do a very good job of approximating the stoopid parent or the programmie, so its all just as well. Facts and reason and proof vs... emotional bullshit.
Besides, when I yelled at "sue scheff" (the troll...) she did a sufficient job of imitating $ue, that it might as well have been me vs the greedy bitch herself - to anyone watching that is.
That said, I really do wish the bitch would show up and acutally try to defend herself toe to toe instead of ducking form us while PRETENDING to be a "watchdog group".
Fucking bitch.
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