Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS)
son in WWASP program
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-04-13 17:26:00, Anonymous wrote:
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--- Quote ---and the thing that scares him more then anything is the thought of that drug, and what would happen if he did it just once again...........
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That's because WWASPS specializes in attack therapy, trying to scare you into submission and from returning to old behaviors. They do not address the issues that cause drug use, or other problems, they think drug use in of itself is somehow curable. Your son will return into the exact same environment that caused him to choose to do meth in the first place, so why would anything change? If you use the home contract stuff when he comes home, it will be worse. Of course it scares him, because he knows he is not addressing the reasons why he was doing drugs. Meth isn't some contagious disease you get, you choose to use it."
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Well, of course, your son has no reason to be scared of meth. So it's a choice--even when he's in the gutter, sobbing for enough to keep him whole another hour. But it's just a stage, right? Boys will be boys.
How many therapists are there at the school? Wonder what they talk about all those hours with the kids, since no one is addressing any real issues?
He'll return to the same environment---only if nothing changes at home. Hence the seminars.
Dad the fact is, you're right on. YOU know he needs help. You're intelligent enough to be searching, and continually learning. And it sounds as though you recognize that he can eventually choose to change or not, stay healthy or not.
I support good programs---including the WWASP programs I have experienced personally. Remember, they're independently owned, and not all of them look alike. There's a wide variety of kids and approaches; personally investigating this will bear out the truth of what I say.
The best thing you can do is what you're doing: be aware of the certain death of meth, keep informed, and participate in every step of his program--wherever or whatever it is. My best to you and your son.
Troll Control:
--- Quote ---On 2006-04-14 16:31:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-04-13 17:26:00, Anonymous wrote:
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--- Quote ---and the thing that scares him more then anything is the thought of that drug, and what would happen if he did it just once again...........
--- End quote ---
That's because WWASPS specializes in attack therapy, trying to scare you into submission and from returning to old behaviors. They do not address the issues that cause drug use, or other problems, they think drug use in of itself is somehow curable. Your son will return into the exact same environment that caused him to choose to do meth in the first place, so why would anything change? If you use the home contract stuff when he comes home, it will be worse. Of course it scares him, because he knows he is not addressing the reasons why he was doing drugs. Meth isn't some contagious disease you get, you choose to use it."
--- End quote ---
Well, of course, your son has no reason to be scared of meth. So it's a choice--even when he's in the gutter, sobbing for enough to keep him whole another hour. But it's just a stage, right? Boys will be boys.
How many therapists are there at the school? Wonder what they talk about all those hours with the kids, since no one is addressing any real issues?
He'll return to the same environment---only if nothing changes at home. Hence the seminars.
Dad the fact is, you're right on. YOU know he needs help. You're intelligent enough to be searching, and continually learning. And it sounds as though you recognize that he can eventually choose to change or not, stay healthy or not.
I support good programs---including the WWASP programs I have experienced personally. Remember, they're independently owned, and not all of them look alike. There's a wide variety of kids and approaches; personally investigating this will bear out the truth of what I say.
The best thing you can do is what you're doing: be aware of the certain death of meth, keep informed, and participate in every step of his program--wherever or whatever it is. My best to you and your son.
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This is the same bitch from the Carlbrook thread.
Looks more and more like an Ed Con doing some advertising.
Anonymous:
Yep, the Ed Con, supporting any program that charges money... sad.
Watch this movie and ask yourself if you trust these people with your child.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 0196191412
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---Well, of course, your son has no reason to be scared of meth. So it's a choice--even when he's in the gutter, sobbing for enough to keep him whole another hour. But it's just a stage, right? Boys will be boys.
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No, it's not a stage, it's a drug -- you know, those things that make you high to cover up the feelings you don't want to feel? When he gets out of his prison camp, he will have a lot more to cover up. Go read the post from a graduate who still has PTSD.
--- Quote ---How many therapists are there at the school? Wonder what they talk about all those hours with the kids, since no one is addressing any real issues?
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Tell us, how many therapists. How many times a week does he see the therapist. Does he receive family therapy, to improve the situation when he comes home? Is his therapy confidential, or do they share that info with his family rep? Program therapy is not therapy, I've lived through both and know the difference.
--- Quote ---He'll return to the same environment---only if nothing changes at home. Hence the seminars.
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Please tell me you didn't just say that. It's sad people like you are put in a position of authority over other people's children. Seminars... please.
--- Quote ---Dad the fact is, you're right on. YOU know he needs help. You're intelligent enough to be searching, and continually learning. And it sounds as though you recognize that he can eventually choose to change or not, stay healthy or not.
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Coercion. Remember that word, it's important. His son chose nothing, not when he pisses, when he eats or even looks out the window. His son doesn't even know what it feels like to be able to make a series of choices throughout the day anymore. When he gets out of the program and realizes all the 'tools' they taught him only work in the program, he will be in for a rude awakening.
--- Quote ---I support good programs
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Not sure what you're doing in a WWASP thread then.
--- Quote ---including the WWASP programs I have experienced personally.
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Which one did you send your kid to, and for how long?
--- Quote ---Remember, they're independently owned, and not all of them look alike.
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None of them look like what parents think they do. They have NO idea, but like I said, we put on a great show for you. Parents are paying for a circus, for all of us to put on the show they want to see.
--- Quote ---There's a wide variety of kids and approaches; personally investigating this will bear out the truth of what I say.
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No, the truth is you support an abusive program that turns out kids with more problems than they went in with. THIS is the truth.
--- Quote ---The best thing you can do is what you're doing: be aware of the certain death of meth,
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It's great he got proper drug treatment and addressed the issues that caused him to do it in the first place so he doesn't get back into meth when he gets home. Oh wait...
--- Quote ---keep informed, and participate in every step of his program--wherever or whatever it is.
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Unless he breaks the home contract, then you should send him back to the program. Or when he turns 18 give him his exit plan and kick him out on the street. This is what WWASP teaches parents to do.
Yes, what a great program -- WWASP destroys families for a pile of cash, very admirable group of people.
Anonymous:
pro-wwasp anon wrote
--- Quote ---He'll return to the same environment---only if nothing changes at home. Hence the seminars.
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wwasp dad wrote
--- Quote ---we have been to the seminars, which i have to admit were quite strange, although i did pick-up SOME useful tools in dealing w/ everyday life
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Pro-wwasp anon, you have WAY too much faith in the power of seminars. Did you even read what wwasp dad wrote? Teens with drug problems need real help, not seminars.
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