Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Hyde Schools
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Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-04-16 14:38:00, Anonymous wrote:
"wow. this thread is reminding me of all of those endless, pointless, Hyde seminars where people just kept going after each other and their attitudes. how many times did I just check out because I couldn't take it anymore? Has anyone else noticed in recent posts how much Hyde lingo creeps in?
"Step up to the plate and tell the truth" is an example from a recent post on this thread.
What is truth, anyway? Such a subjective concept.
It might be fun to try to compile a list of Hyde-isms.
Anyone else want to contribute?
"The apple doesn't fall far from the tree," comes to mind.
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have you read through the hyde manual or notebook that they give parents? have you read the homework assignments and exercises they use? i've seen more sophisticated material in community college courses. this hyde stuff is so superficial and dumbed down that it's insulting.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-04-16 17:48:00, Anonymous wrote:
"THE APPLE DOESN'T FALL FAR FROM THE TREE - "Apparently of Eastern origin, it is frequently used to assert the continuity of family characteristics. Quot. 1839 implies return to one's original home. Cf. 16th century Ger. 'der Apfel fellt nicht gerne weit vom Baume,' the apple does not usually fall far from the tree." From "The Concise Oxford Dictionary of Proverbs" by John Simpson and Jennifer Speake (Oxford University Press, Oxford and New York, Third Edition, 1998). "
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Hey it is the truth, whether you believe hyde is a good bad or indifferent place. Your children learn from your day to day example. when they grow up they are a relection of you. Not what you say, not what you preach, but you. Child abuse and substance abuse are heritatry for that reason, although perhaps not solely. It is really important to consider what you model and what you value thru your actions because your kids will pick it up.
It is one of the things that hyde is correct on. If your kid has a problem, you really need to look at the dynamics of the family with out regard to whether you choose hyde or not.
Hyde is likely a far different place now compared to when I went there, so I will not weight in on that score.
Sue Doenym
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2006-04-17 07:41:00, Anonymous wrote:
It is one of the things that hyde is correct on. If your kid has a problem, you really need to look at the dynamics of the family with out regard to whether you choose hyde or not.
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One of the most cruel things you can do to your kid is to try to fix them. Moreso a whole family. It's a condemnation, a cold rejection, a damning. The fact is that the bigger part of growing up into a complete, whole person is about developing the discretion to honor and keep those things of value that our forbears had to offer while respectfully and adeptly improving on their work.
If your kid has problems, welcome to the real world. Everybody comes w/ a little extra baggage. Your kid, as we're talking about nearly grown people here, has it as his lot in life to finish the job that, for whatever reasons, you did badly. It's a right of passage that we all need. It's both foolish and cruel to lock a kid down and take away that single oportunity to come into his or her own.
--- Quote ---Hyde is likely a far different place now compared to when I went there, so I will not weight in on that score.
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Having watched rendition after rendition of this song and dance for the past 30 years or so (most of my life) I would tend to expect that it's not all that different at all. That kind of sickness is like dog kicking or wife beating. It just doesn't go away on it's own.
He that will not reason is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; and he who dares not, is a slave.
--William Drummond (1585-1640)
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Anonymous:
I agree locking your kid up in one of these boot camp private jails is fubar. they are worse then jails because at least if you are in the criminal justice system you have rights.
Hyde is a bit different then wasp or straight. I am actually greatful I was there. My alturnative was juvy hall, So 616 high street was not that bad. I had some good times there. If my choice was straight/wasp or a juvinile lock up, the lock up wins hands down.
Sue
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-04-18 08:58:00, Anonymous wrote:
"
I agree locking your kid up in one of these boot camp private jails is fubar. they are worse then jails because at least if you are in the criminal justice system you have rights.
Hyde is a bit different then wasp or straight. I am actually greatful I was there. My alturnative was juvy hall, So 616 high street was not that bad. I had some good times there. If my choice was straight/wasp or a juvinile lock up, the lock up wins hands down.
Sue"
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same thing here. there was some really good there, and some really bad, but i always knew two things: i could always leave and go out on my own (i.e., there has never been a lock down process in Hyde's history), and chosing Hyde over juvy or being out on the road (which i did for a while) or a lock-down, was an easy decision.
hyde may also have some similarities to straight and wasp, but i know some significant differences too, and Hyde would have been an easy choice over those places as well. the fact that it had my parents examining their own lives being another big one.
anyway, i don't idealize Hyde, but i do think, on the spectrum is turned out to be a much better option than any of these other possibilities. for that matter, i am not even sure what else was out there at the time (for the money, my folks couldn't have stretched it much further).....
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