Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
HLA and Milonas v. Williams
Anonymous:
Milonas does offer protection as a result of state or district action. A parent or guardian is not considered "the State". The state or a district, or any governmental entity is.
However, My reasoning on parents signing over 'enrolling' kids is based on the fact that you absolutly can sign away your own constitutional rights, as long as you are not tricked into it. That is what you do when consenting to having your car or house search, for instance. I reckon kids rights can be signed away by parent or guardian as the guardian can be held responsible for the child's transgressions, I would think that much constitutional protection for the child reverts to the custodian, as the child would not know if they were being tricked. A parent can consent to their child being searched, I am quite sure.
I get Juni's point, too. But, in their 'enrollment' papers, you signed over *some* control of your child, for instance, that they could prevent the child from telephoning or otherwise directly contacting you for some time. Was there **any** wording in that 'contract' that could have been used to trick you, you would have an additional legal avenue to pursue these criminals if there was. They are clearly sneaky bastards, and will undoubtedly use any trick they can to excuse their behavior. These people will never admit any errors, sins, or whatever. They are evil. The ones with any morals and ethics are leaving. The ones staying are into money.
Strip searching is particularly egregious, and much has been pursued in the legal world over it, even the right of jailers to strip search convicted criminals. Much safety must be in place, even there. I doubt HLA gave a damn how that was done either. They use Big dudes to step on little girls, for instance. I wouldn't be surprised if they used the same for strip searches.
Trust me, I hate these people as much as you do, these schools should be closed down nation-(and world, another of their tricks is offshoring)- wide. It means plenty to me personally.
Deborah:
I wish I had a copy of the contract so I could respond. Unfortunately, my ex enrolled our son without my knowledge or consent. I was never told or otherwise inform as to what 'rights' my ex was signing over.
It took no time at all to realize that they intended to completely ignore my and my son's rights. My only recourse was to take the matter to family court. Based on false testimony provided by my ex and Merideth Burns the judge ruled that my son would remain in their warehouse.
I was also never provided with a copy of my son's records. Greg Lindsey told me he wouldn't release those documents until I revealed what I had found in my research. To this day I haven't one record.
I did receive a copy of the Parent Manual, for what good it was worth. My son was sent to wilderness in violation of their stated policy. When I complained, they simply changed the policy.
I feel certain my ex, and many other parents just like him, have yet to read the contract or the parent manual.
Perhaps someone else has a copy of the contract they could scan and post, which could make for some interesting and lively discussion.
Anonymous:
whoa.........
I'm so sorry for you and your child , Deborah- that is an awful tale. Can just one parent do that in spite of the other parent, or does it revolve around who has custody? I'm sure it is different from state to state, and I doubt Texas is real friendly about helping you.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-04-15 23:24:00, Deborah wrote:
"
I wish I had a copy of the contract so I could respond. Unfortunately, my ex enrolled our son without my knowledge or consent. I was never told or otherwise inform as to what 'rights' my ex was signing over.
Perhaps someone else has a copy of the contract they could scan and post, which could make for some interesting and lively discussion."
--- End quote ---
Yes, that is an excellent idea. Anyone got one?
Deborah:
--- Quote ---On 2006-04-16 01:56:00, Anonymous wrote:
"whoa.........
I'm so sorry for you and your child , Deborah- that is an awful tale. Can just one parent do that in spite of the other parent, or does it revolve around who has custody? I'm sure it is different from state to state, and I doubt Texas is real friendly about helping you."
--- End quote ---
I've been posting here for five years. There have been a number of parents who found themselves in the same situation with other programs, wilderness and residential. Accomplishing anything in family court these days is a lengthy process. One has rights only to the extent they can afford to litigate.
I wanted an injunction that would remove my son from their unlicensed wilderness program and bring him back home until it could be determined if such an austere placement was in his best interest. What I found myself involved in was a legal nightmare that potentially could have taken 2-3 years with psych evals for everyone (which could be contested), guardian ad litem for son (further complicating the matter-particularly if s/he happened to agree that an RTC was appropriate), mediations (in which some uncredentialed good ol boy acted as 'judge' and negotiated trade offs of rights), and tens of thousands of dollars of expense. By the time a decision was ever arrived at, my son would have long completed his 'sentence'. Programs are aware of this and retain the child until they are forced to release them.
The entire fiasco could have been avoided if they had acted with a shread of decency and integrity by refusing to keep my son incarcerated against my wishes. Instead, they colluded with his father in violating my rights and selfishly took two years from us. Both providing perjured testimony to that end.
Another issue that should be addressed industry/nation wide. Enrollment of a child should require both biological parents approval, when both have custody rights. It's too complicated and expense to reverse a private placement.
This was not the first time he had violoted my rights, but the first time I had to deal with the mess long distance.
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