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Antigen:
Ya know, both SummitQuest and Right Way are primarily public sector funded facilities.

What do yenz think about keeping topics about these and any more such facilities under the Public Sector Gulags forum?

My reasoning is this. For the most part, public sector facilities fall under different athorities and laws than the private ones. At the end of the day, the private ones can be nimble and maliable and, as long as there's a market among the parents, they can go on skirting whatever regulatory innovations may trickle down through the bureaucracy far faster than the bureaucracy can move.

The public ones are different in that respect. They're just as tied up w/ red tape as the overseeing agencies and contract corporations.

But they're similar in a lot of other ways, especially when we see notorious characters from private sector programs like FFS migrating into these publicly funded organizations.

For the sake of debate, I think it would also be useful to have a robust forum on the public sector gulags to refute the notion that the private ones are better.

What do ya'll think?
Heroism on command, senseless violence, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism--how passionately I hate them!
--Albert Einstein
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Antigen:
Oh yeah, and then, of course, there's Eckerd which I think certainly belongs there. But I only made that forum after floridatreasure started posting.
All of these comforting and reasonable things were taught by the ministers in their pulpits -- by teachers in Sunday schools and by parents at home. The children were victims. They were assaulted in the cradle -- in their mother's arms. Then, the schoolmaster carried on the war against their natural sense, and all the books they read were filled with the same impossible truths. The poor children were helpless. The atmosphere they breathed was filled with lies -- lies that mingled with their blood.
--Robert G. Ingersoll, American politician and lecturer
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Deborah:
I've already sent the URL for this thread out to a couple of groups. Would it change if you move it?
I guess I wasn't paying close attention. I know they received state funds, but were any of their kids private pay? Isn't this a private company with a contract with the state? It's not state owned and operated, so they have very similar, if not the same, regulations as private warehouses. That's my understanding anyway, unless Penn is different.
One arguement used by the private guys- they don't want to be placed in the RTC catagory, when in fact they are employing many of the same techniques, punishments, and distributing drugs.

Deborah:
Personally, I consider Eckerd to be private as well.
Guess it depends on the definition.
Where does one draw the line?
I've always considered public to be state owned and operated.
Many private programs take adjudicated youth and have contracts to take state placed kids.

MomCat:
The PPA report can be found here:
http://caica.org/NEWS%20DEATHS%20JOEY%2 ... UPDATE.htm

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