Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Hyde Schools
A Negative Experience
Anonymous:
I'm kinda getting alittle sick and tired of the Jim Jones analogy.
No one is drinking kool-aid.
You can leave if you want.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-04-07 08:54:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I'm kinda getting alittle sick and tired of the Jim Jones analogy.
No one is drinking kool-aid.
You can leave if you want."
--- End quote ---
I agree the Jim Jones and AH analogies are over the top. I like the Ken Kesey analogy some one posted.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-04-06 16:32:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Many of the staff at Hyde are deeply dedicated to what they are doing there. In many cases, they have dedicated their lives to what they believe is a higher purpose, to help kids, families, and the educational system in this country. Many Hyde administrators came to Hyde as idealistic teachers. Many also came as part of the Gauld extended family and the Hyde web of alumni, another form of extended family for many staff.
My struggle is how to reconcile the staff's view of itself with its actions, which in my own experience were damaging. What does one do when people do harm when they believe they are doing good? "
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A major part of Hyde's problem is that there's so much organizational incest. I agree that some of the staff have dedicated their lives to helping struggling kids. Part of the problem is that Hyde staff are part of such a closed "system" that they've managed to convince each other of the wisdom of their ways, in spite of all that evidence that some of what they do (not all) is awfully damaging to the students and their parents. The people who are "married" to Hyde (and sometimes to each other) are like people who live in a commune and have limited contact with the outside world. You see evidence of this all over the place at Hyde. Lots of the staff seem to seek comfort in Hyde because they've struggled in their own lives and Hyde gives them the structure and purpose they need. Those who can't hack the incest tend to leave, it seems.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-04-08 13:22:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-04-06 16:32:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Many of the staff at Hyde are deeply dedicated to what they are doing there. In many cases, they have dedicated their lives to what they believe is a higher purpose, to help kids, families, and the educational system in this country. Many Hyde administrators came to Hyde as idealistic teachers. Many also came as part of the Gauld extended family and the Hyde web of alumni, another form of extended family for many staff.
My struggle is how to reconcile the staff's view of itself with its actions, which in my own experience were damaging. What does one do when people do harm when they believe they are doing good? "
--- End quote ---
A major part of Hyde's problem is that there's so much organizational incest. I agree that some of the staff have dedicated their lives to helping struggling kids. Part of the problem is that Hyde staff are part of such a closed "system" that they've managed to convince each other of the wisdom of their ways, in spite of all that evidence that some of what they do (not all) is awfully damaging to the students and their parents. The people who are "married" to Hyde (and sometimes to each other) are like people who live in a commune and have limited contact with the outside world. You see evidence of this all over the place at Hyde. Lots of the staff seem to seek comfort in Hyde because they've struggled in their own lives and Hyde gives them the structure and purpose they need. Those who can't hack the incest tend to leave, it seems. "
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I would disagree. One the keys to hyde working when it works is the fact it is closed and insular. The problem is the lack objective metrics and codes of conduct for those acting in that system.
Another problem I see it question of moral authority raised in other posts. From whence does this authority come? Are there sevices at Hyde in a chapel? Prayer groups? Bible study? Who decides what is correct in this code. Is there a code? Is the code christian, islamic etc? Any of the hyde staffers who patrol this list care to weigh in?
Anonymous:
I would like to see a list of staff who have "devoted their lives" to the kids? I would like to see some of these names other than the close knit family and extended family of Joe Gauld who are in it for the money and the fact that they can't succeed in anything else. Give us some names of some morally correct and emotionally stable staff at Hyde who have been there for years. PLEASE!!
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