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Anonymous:
Hi,

Anybody remember a post from a W kid or parent that said approx. how much they thought Sue Scheff was paid by WHITMORE for referrals?

I tried a WWF search, but there's just too many threads and posts to sort through, I did my best, but I'm hoping someone remembers and can either answer the question OR point me to the original thread and post.

Thanks for any help you can offer. I'm curious what the fee range is and would think this info might be useful to journalists and others exploring this side of the industry.

FYI - ED CONS are paid by parents, not programs, but Scheff is not an educational consultant. She's just a parent who had a troubled teen and once worked for WWASPS referring other parents to them until something happened.  It's in the WWASPS v. PURE transcripts, but I don't remember what it was that happened to prompt Scheff to start her own referral business.  Maybe someone else knows?

 :wave:

Anonymous:
Tim Lowe the therapist and "sometimes acting admissions director at Whitmore" said Sue Scheff was paid 10% of the annual yearly fee of the student she enrolled at Whitmore.
Most parents in 2003-2004 were paying approximately $3,750.00 to $4,500 per month to the Sudweeks.
Tim Lowe also said that 100% of the placements at Whitmore Academy came from Sue Scheff, PURE.
This guy had no reason to lie that can be seen.

That's a lot of money from this cash cow of Scheff's.

Scheff continued to refer kids to Whitmore, even after the Sudweeks were being investigated for child abuse. Worse yet, she continued to send parent to Whitmore even after Cheryl Sudweeks was charged with criminal child abuse.
And yes, she was paid by the owners of the program, and she's not an educational consultant. Scheff has been know to lie about this,being a consultant too.  Can read this lie, along with others--like lying about having a degree...etc etc... by reading her deposition using the search feature.

And Scheff has the nerve to complain about WWASP that she referred kids to herself?  This woman has something terrible wrong in her views of "helping children." She refers children to what is known to be an abusive facility. This is just wrong.  And Scheff does it to make money. There's just no way to explain something like that.

Antigen:
I think I can explain it. Sue Scheff is dumb as a bag of hammers. She initially sent her kids off for reprogramming, but didn't ever catch onto the "wink, wink, say n'more" about the pepper spray, isolation, physical beatings and all the rest. When she 'discovered' all this, some months after having taken up fulltime employment at selling the program to desperate strangers, she was incensed!

So she set about to alert all the other dumber than bricks yuppies of the danger. "Don't send your kid to WWASP, they leave bruises! Here, send them to one of these other places. Same great brainwashing, less physical evidence."
Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
--Anonymous
--- End quote ---

Anonymous:
Well, the Sudweeks--Sue Scheff's little abusive friends at Whitmore-- left physical evidence on the kids they abused. Guess that's why Cheryl Sudweeks is facing a criminal trial. Guess that's why several families have filed a civil suit. Maybe Ms. Scheff will be called as a witness in the criminal and civil trial and she will get a chance to explain herself. And she does such a great job explaining herself under oath, now doesn't she? Yea, right.

Anonymous:
I definitly think this trial should be covered by the mainstream media ... DATELINE, 48 HOURS, maybe even COURT TV?

This is bigger than the WWASPS controvery in my opinion because it involves criminal charges and an investigation on U.S. soil. Also, the issue involving finder's fees for placements may be of interest to journalists who aren't aware of this practice which does raise troubling questions about a potential conflict of interest.

Lastly, Maia's book is a good resource for journalists to get the back story on the industry at large -- as is the current tragedy at the boot camp in Florida.

Bottom line, it's not ALL ABOUT WWASPS ... they may be the biggest but when you combine all the group homes, faith based schools, wilderness programs, etc. the picture that this is really an epidemic comes into focus.

Just my 2 cents for what it's worth.

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