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Anonymous:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Is it true that Joe had an affair with a student?
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She was out of Hyde for two years, a sophmore in college.  This was later 70's

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like a lot of people are mixing their personal allegiances or likes/dislikes with their assessments of whether the school works or not.  Although both are inherently part of "your experience", they are indeed two very different things...

Personnel change, headmasters will change... But the core values of the system would be expected to stay, more or less, the same.

It seems to me that a lot of the attraction to Hyde has to do with Joe Gauld.  Whether you consider him a maniacal Jim Jones sans the kool aid character, the dedicated saviour of your errant child, or something inbetween, the guy does appear to "have an effect" on those lucky or unlucky enough to encounter him more than casually.

Without Joe, the school seems to have floundered.

This is not a good situation.  It would appear that there are critical features lacking in either the school's philosophy or its services (including "academics").  Certainly its system of "checks and balances" is sub par.

Moreover, it is particularly dangerous, from a psychological perspective, to depend on personal emotions and loyalties to ensure that you get a good education!  People misunderstand things and misread things all the time, not to mention lie when they are boxed in a corner... and school administrations are no exception, even Hyde (perhaps especially Hyde)...

Any comments, friends?  (shred me, please!   ::kma:: )
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    There seems to be more intuition than analysis on the part of major players and a play book that is dogeared and yellow.  The interview process has been pretty well nailed here on several threads.  The process of confrontation degradation and rebuilding is a common tool.  It is like a "come to Jesus" process or enbracing a 12 step program.  "I once was lost and now I'm found" to quote the hymn.  If you don't think you are lost Hyde will convince you otherwise.  I am not sure the consequnces of the latter are considered in all cases and at times become a ego driven contest of the will.
 It does work for some. Some not.  To quote a former headmaster, "there are no panaceas"

Emil Nightrate

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---    There seems to be more intuition than analysis on the part of major players and a play book that is dogeared and yellow.  The interview process has been pretty well nailed here on several threads.  The process of confrontation degradation and rebuilding is a common tool.  It is like a "come to Jesus" process or enbracing a 12 step program.  "I once was lost and now I'm found" to quote the hymn.  If you don't think you are lost Hyde will convince you otherwise.  I am not sure the consequnces of the latter are considered in all cases and at times become a ego driven contest of the will.
 It does work for some. Some not.  To quote a former headmaster, "there are no panaceas"

Emil Nightrate
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So degredation is an acceptable form of *therapy*?  As long as it *works*, huh?

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---    There seems to be more intuition than analysis on the part of major players and a play book that is dogeared and yellow.  The interview process has been pretty well nailed here on several threads.  The process of confrontation degradation and rebuilding is a common tool.  It is like a "come to Jesus" process or enbracing a 12 step program.  "I once was lost and now I'm found" to quote the hymn.  If you don't think you are lost Hyde will convince you otherwise.  I am not sure the consequnces of the latter are considered in all cases and at times become a ego driven contest of the will.
 It does work for some. Some not.  To quote a former headmaster, "there are no panaceas"

Emil Nightrate
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 I did not say acceptable.  Scientology works for some people.  I would personally find it unacceptable. Power to Tom Cruise. L.Ron seems to work for him.

Emil

So degredation is an acceptable form of *therapy*?  As long as it *works*, huh?
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Anonymous:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" --- I did not say acceptable.  Scientology works for some people.  I would personally find it unacceptable. Power to Tom Cruise. L.Ron seems to work for him.

Emil

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Didn't work so well for Lisa McPherson.  If it kills people, it's unacceptable.  Scientology is a destructive cult.  So are the programs.


--- Quote ---The process of confrontation degradation and rebuilding is a common tool. It is like a "come to Jesus" process or enbracing a 12 step program. "I once was lost and now I'm found" to quote the hymn. If you don't think you are lost Hyde will convince you otherwise. I am not sure the consequnces of the latter are considered in all cases and at times become a ego driven contest of the will.
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Yes, it is a common tool.  In fact it's the most crucial tool.  It's also the most damaging.

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