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Green River Boys Camp KENTUCKY

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Anonymous:

--- Quote from: "Antigen" ---Welcome, Mandel! I'm so glad you posted.


--- Quote ---On 2006-04-01 06:49:00, mandelduke wrote:

After all these years, I still live in the reality of yesterday, and cannot understand why this country carelessly continues to allow children?s lives to be permanently damaged?  

Mandel Crittendon

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Well, here's part of the answer.

--- Quote ---by making us participate in torturing others, we became too ashamed to talk about it. I don?t know why it is so difficult for me to talk about it. I have been silent except for one incident I told my second wife in 1985 when my brother died from cancer.

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It is difficult to talk about. Until pretty recently, most people litterally just didn't believe that such things could occure in the US in this day and age. There's also considerable power in those confessions repeated over and over again under nightmare conditions. While you don't usually actually believe the facts of the lie (some do! I've seen it) most people, especially kids will go away believeing the subjective part; the part about what kind of person you are. From what you say, I wonder if a lot of Green River survivors have difficulty smiling and/or don't like being smiled at.

I guess you've figured out by now that these tactics they used on you were not just the spontanious ideas of a few sadistic bastards. What you say also makes me wonder if these "treatment" programs were part of the same federal experiments as the TC, Matrix in the adult system. Here's more on that:
http://republicanpartyandcults.blogspot ... hould.html

Note the title of that essay? That's one reason why this goes on to this day. It's pretty hard for anyone in authority to stop these practices without admiting to these practices. And, quite frankly, they're a bunch of pussies who'd rather just go on letting little kids be tortured, broken and killed than to own up to their own deeds and take what they've got coming.

We're going to have to force them to it. And, as the criminal, judicial and welfare agencies who are supposed to do this for us (not just a good idea, it's their JOB and it's the LAW) are in it up to their eyebrows, we're going to have to use the other branch of government, the Vth Estate; our free press.

I think that's starting to happen in a significant way. Don't know when it will reach the tipping point, but I do believe that, sooner or later, the thousands and thousands of us who have seen this firsthand will catch a story on the news or something and quit keeping quiet. If it were just you or just me, who'd believe us? But there must be hundreds of thousands of us. And some insiders w/ more credibility, such as those teachers who wittnessed but didn't participate in your torture, are bound to speak up once the story takes on momentum.

So thanks for doing this small part of that important work. It takes a thousand voices to tell just one story. This is one hell of a complicated story and a bitterly shameful one at that. It may take hundreds of thousands. But I do believe we'll get there.

So, what else do you know about the history, funding, people? If you can remember the names of the staff, especially the higher ups, I'd be curious to see what they're up to now. If anyone you're in touch with from there wants to post here, please pass along my invitation.

Let's get this party started!  ::rocker:: What kind of humanism expresses its reluctance to sacrifice military casualties by devastating the civilian economy of its adversary for decades to come?  
 Henry Kissinger
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antigen is there anything i can do to help this person. tell me what to do and i'll do it. donations etc

Anonymous:
my name is danny edward taylor,yes i was troubled teen in the mid seventies and was made a ward of the state because the calloway county courts in murray ky threatened my mother with holding me in the county jail till i turned 18 then as adult to be tried,and most likely as they put it,would be found guilty of numerous( non violent) crimes of petty theft and would be sent to eddyville penitentiary .  to my under standing this is a horrible place for any person to land,much less a non hardened teen as myself. my mother new of the state pen. and it's legacy and opted to turn me over to the state.  the mental abuse i received from the state facility known as GREEN RIVER BOYS CAMP,still to this day has a negative affect on my mental health,the treatment of those under privileged and mentally challenged was in no way treatment it was torture.we were not treated like soldiers in a boot-camp,we were treated more like POWS.  i've never been in the military  but this is just my sense of speculative measure.  what they called treatment would defiantly be considered mental abuse.  counselors would set up these hypothetical problem scenarios pitting a group of boys (five groups in camp A,B,C,D,E with 7 to 10 teenagers in a group with one socialworker/counselor each,i distinctly remember,as though it were yesterday,having to hold another member up by the belt while two other members held his knees to the asphalt and yet two other members squeezed his hands tight to worn out bristol scrub brushes doused with bleach and a liberal amount comet cleanser trying to force this guy to clean oil spots off the asphalt.the counselors made us scream our heads off at him trying to make him confess to feelings or wrongdoings that were not really the truth,yeah the guy had problems,but wouldn't fess up to the fabricated made up scenarios and accusations of the counselors.  we felt horrible but knew that the counselors would do the same to us if we didn't do what they ordered us to do.  at one point the weeping boy went limp as blood from his raw fingers pooled up in the foam of the wet powder bleach comet cleanser. this is only one of many terrible images that still haunt and affect me today.  i feel the state of kentucky owes me at least some kind of compensation in the way of therapy and treatment and if anyone could guide or direct me in the direction of how i might attain such please let me know.  i don't want money just treatment compensation for the trauma from which i've suffered over the years.  email me at eddiebigfoot@gmail.com or call 919 971 3596

Ursus:
The earliest mention I could find of Green River Boys Camp was discussion of the construction project to build it. Apparently, it was a pretty high priority for Kentucky, superseding other similar such projects:

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Kentucky New Era
Cutbacks in Two Projects Announced
By SY RAMSEY
Jul 25, 1970

FRANKFORT, Ky. (AP) — Inflationary costs and a continuing strain on the budge have forced the Child Welfare Department to cut back tow projects which would have cost $1 million altogether.

The temporary casualties are planned construction of a diagnostic center in Daviess County for juvenile offenders and the moving to Barkley Boys Camp in Marshall County.

"This does not mean that we forsake forever the desirability of the additional facilities," Child Welfare Commissioner George Perkins said Monday, "but simply that we must face the economic reality that sufficient funds are not available."

The Daviess County facility was to have cost $700,000 and drew opposition from many Philpot residents who feared a lowering of property values.

But Perkins said he was dropping the project for monetary reasons and not because of the protests.

Barkley Boys' Camp was to have been rebuilt elsewhere in Marshall County at an estimated cost of $300,000 on land donated by the Tennessee Valley Authority.

Two other projects with higher priority will survive.

They are construction of the Green River Boys' Camp in Butler County, to cost $550,000, and a diagnostic center in Kenton County — with an original cost of $650,000 and a revised engineers' estimate of %700,000.

Perkins attributed the fund shortage to several factors. Among them:

—A disastrous fire which destroyed the Woodsbend Boys' Camp in Morgan County in December 1968.

The buildings were insured for their aggregate original construction cost of $150,000, but replacement was going to cost twice as much, Perkins said.

"With the necessity to replace this facility ... we were forced to defer replacement of the Barkley camp," he said. "Now (we) are forced to choose from the top of the list."

—A drain of department funds because of sharply increased commitments of children for foster care.

Perkins sounded an alarm on this point last spring, saying the starvation death of a Louisville child had prompted neighbors to call authorities on similar cases where previously they were silent — causing an upsurge in such commitments.

—The constant costs of trying to provide numerous services that might be handled better by communities on a volunteer basis.

Perkins has emphasized community activities designed to prevent juvenile delinquency.

He said "we entertain high hopes" this trend might be accelerated and "will result in the load of commitments to child welfare being held down."

Experience in some local areas shows the idea is feasible, he said.

Unaffected by the announced project cuts is the situation at Lyndon near Louisville.

If a state bond issue is approved this fall, $1,165,000 is set aside to build the long-sought new diagnostic and reception center there for juvenile offenders. The old facility would be used for hard core cases.


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Ursus:
The following is from the caption describing what's going on in a pic of a water tower. The need for an upgraded potable water supply in the region ... delayed opening of the Green River Boys' Camp.

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Daily News · [Bowling Green, Kentucky]
Friday, September 1, 1972

Tower Power

EMPLOYEES of Caldwell Construction Co. of Louisville work atop a water tower for Butler County Water System. Superstructure of the 50,000 gallon capacity tank is expected to be completed within two weeks. Located about one mile north of Morgantown, the tower will serve customers of the Aberdeen water district including the new Green River Boys Camp.
(Staff Photo by Paul Hightower)

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Ursus:
Green River Boys Camp officially opened on Wednesday, February 7, 1973:

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Daily News · [Bowling Green,, Kentucky]
Green River Boys Camp is opened
Thursday, February 8, 1973

MORGANTOWN, Ky. — Green River Boys Camp officially opened Wednesday with the arrival of 10 boys at the state's newest center for male juvenile offenders.

The camp, under construction since September, 1971, has been ready for occupancy for several months. However, delays in the completion of the Butler County Water System has postponed the camp's opening several times. The staff and facilities have been on stand-by for the boys' arrival since last November.

The camp's new residents range in age from 13-17 years old. Usual age for the boys will be 12-16 years old, according to camp Superintendent Mike Yelton. He anticipates the arrival of additional boys weekly. Maximum population for the camp is 50, but Yelton does not expect to have that many boys for several months, he said.

The camp, located about six miles north of Morgantown off U.S. 231, is comprised of 100 acres and a dormitory-living facility and maintenance building. The State Department of Child Welfare project was constructed by B.C. Construction Co. of Bowling Green under a $315,818 contract.


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