Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Second Nature Wilderness Program
Anonymous:
Julie- you are so off base it is laughable. Go back to your book.
Anonymous:
My kid had/has problems. Maybe not bad enough to live at a RTC for years but she was helped concerning her drug use and her unhealthy choices in just about every arena of her life. She didn't want to go back to an "Outward Bound" program because she reports that her first drug use occurred there! I don't and she doesn't regret the decision to go to Second Nature. By the way, there are no referral fees and our insurance company paid for a big portion of the cost.
Anonymous:
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Then, after the testing--we had it done for our daughter, it's not that big a deal---there are all sorts of outdoorsy vacation packages, some with tour groups, that provide the same thing for less money.
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You get what you pay for. I'd rather have my kid with Psychologists and MSW's and pay more than risk the possible deviant behaviour of low-paid chaperones.
Anonymous:
Oh, and by the way, Julie, those other programs you refer to ask questions like:
1) Has your child ever been in therapy?
2) Has your child ever been suspended or expelled from school?
3) Does your child have a diagnosis from a licensed therapist?
4) Please sign this release form so that we may get information from his/her therapist pertinent to your child's ability to travel with us.
The bottom line is if the child has been suspended, has an eating disorder, ever was a cutter (even a recovered cutter) or has a drug abuse history THEY WILL NOT accept them.
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2006-03-22 09:42:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:
The recidivism rate for WT stands at 75%. So, if we're speaking in facts and not opinions, this modality is effective at changing behavior in only 25% of cases.
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Controls? I'm guessing it's about the same as AA's own stated 5% "success rate", which is just slightly lower than controls who seek and receive no formal intervention whatever.
so long as the universe had a beginning, we could suppose it had a creator. But if the universe is completely self-contained, having no boundary or edge, it would neither be created nor destroyed it would simply be. What place, then, for a creator?
--stephen Hawking, English scientist
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