Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Second Nature Wilderness Program
TheWho:
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--- Quote ---I have plenty of knowledge about what goes on at the program and there are many kids who will share their experiences with you
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have them come here then coward.
You have knowledge with the program? Have you seen the Duchesne office? Met the robotic Mormons? Met the robotic LDA citizens of the town who quietly look away at all the "rich kids who screwed up". Have you seen the weathered faces of the kids who are on forced marches and solos? Oh wait, seeing another being humilated is therapuetic.
Have you been on an overnight transition? Witness the Stepford-like acceptance of program kids in Transiton so those kids can leave hell?
Waiting for an answer.
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I think everyone is waiting for clinical studies, no one is accepting individual accounts or word of mouth anymore.
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Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---
--- Quote from: ""a Mom"" ---
--- Quote ---I have plenty of knowledge about what goes on at the program and there are many kids who will share their experiences with you
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have them come here then coward.
You have knowledge with the program? Have you seen the Duchesne office? Met the robotic Mormons? Met the robotic LDA citizens of the town who quietly look away at all the "rich kids who screwed up". Have you seen the weathered faces of the kids who are on forced marches and solos? Oh wait, seeing another being humilated is therapuetic.
Have you been on an overnight transition? Witness the Stepford-like acceptance of program kids in Transiton so those kids can leave hell?
Waiting for an answer.
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I think everyone is waiting for clinical studies, no one is accepting individual accounts or word of mouth anymore.
...
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Where are the clinical studies then, thou carbuncle infested old hack?
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""a voice from nobody"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Anecdotal "evidence" from an anonymous program critic means nothing. Please show CLINICAL evidence that Second Nature is abusive. Otherwise, you're just another full-of-shit liar...
Post the evidence that proves what you're saying or shut up.
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Damn right. Lots of talk, but when you ask them to back it up with evidence they come up with zilch. Keep on truckin' buddy, it sure is nice to see someone out there with a BRAIN for a change... This site is full of retards!
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I never said it was abusive, although I think it is.
But I asked you a simple question: Where is the clinical evidence that Second Nature's "brand" of "therapy" works in any way, shape or form?
Please answer that question for me.
BTW, this anon poster is the one FKA "Wild Fig," just so you know who you're dealing with here - one of the most prolific trolls ever to grace fornits.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Anecdotal "evidence" from an anonymous program critic means nothing. Please show CLINICAL evidence that Second Nature is abusive. Otherwise, you're just another full-of-shit liar...
Post the evidence that proves what you're saying or shut up.
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Are you joking? Can humans exist that are so ignorant? Of COURSE there's no such thing as "clinical evidenceâ€
TheWho:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""a voice from nobody"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Anecdotal "evidence" from an anonymous program critic means nothing. Please show CLINICAL evidence that Second Nature is abusive. Otherwise, you're just another full-of-shit liar...
Post the evidence that proves what you're saying or shut up.
--- End quote ---
Damn right. Lots of talk, but when you ask them to back it up with evidence they come up with zilch. Keep on truckin' buddy, it sure is nice to see someone out there with a BRAIN for a change... This site is full of retards!
--- End quote ---
I never said it was abusive, although I think it is.
But I asked you a simple question: Where is the clinical evidence that Second Nature's "brand" of "therapy" works in any way, shape or form?
Please answer that question for me.
BTW, this anon poster is the one FKA "Wild Fig," just so you know who you're dealing with here - one of the most prolific trolls ever to grace fornits.
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We are waiting for the clinical studies that show the program to be abusive. There are some people here who claim it is.
Just provide a link
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