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Second Nature Wilderness Program
Lain the Odd:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Don't you think the parents have done every possible thing to try to help the kid before resorting to wilderness? Don't you think the parents tried to keep the kid in school and salvage the education?
What part of THE KID WAS BLOWING SCHOOL are you not understanding? The ONLY hope at this point is the wilderness program which will get the kid back on track. Taking incompletes or repeating a semester is a pretty minor hurdle compared to jail, death from overdose, being killed in a car wreck or some other similar fate. Also, in many cases it IS a summer choice.
You guys are really grasping this time.
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http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=2364754
Nihilanthic:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Don't you think the parents have done every possible thing to try to help the kid before resorting to wilderness? Don't you think the parents tried to keep the kid in school and salvage the education?
What part of THE KID WAS BLOWING SCHOOL are you not understanding? The ONLY hope at this point is the wilderness program which will get the kid back on track. Taking incompletes or repeating a semester is a pretty minor hurdle compared to jail, death from overdose, being killed in a car wreck or some other similar fate. Also, in many cases it IS a summer choice.
You guys are really grasping this time.
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The part where you're simply saying that kids blow off school before being sent to programs (not all do... I wouldn't even say most) and that somehow marching in the woods with sadistic manipulative mind-fucking uneducated nitwits will 'put them on track' is the part I don't understand :-?
Nihilanthic:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Kids who are sent to a wilderness program have pretty much abandoned the educational opportunities they had at home. 8 weeks or so without schooling is not the end of the world.
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Says who? Id love to see some proof about that. Ive heard of tons of kids escorted from school TO a program.
But then again you're just spewing nonsense anyway!
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---The kids can write freely and express their opinions. They get in excellent physical condition and have a lot of pride in what they accomplish. Those with serious addiction issues usually are not able to maintain sobriety after leaving the program if they go right home.
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BULLSHIT. Prove it! EVERYTHING ANYONE WHO HAS BEEN IN SUCH A PROGRAM HAS EVER SAID, AND ALL VIDEO OF SUCH PROGRAMS CONTRADICTS WHAT YOU JUST SAID! LOL!
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---The bunch of Mormons that run Second Nature are skilled, intelligent and caring.
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Why is it all statements about people from programmed people reads like a fucking mad-lib?
Lain the Odd:
Seriously.. it reminds me of talking to Scientologists. WHAT ARE YOUR CRIMES? WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF, LAIN? WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO HIDE? ...NO, WE AREN'T TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO DIED ON OUR WATCH OR ANYTHING, WHAT ARE YOUR CRIMES? WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO ENTURBULATE PEOPLE?
etc etc etc
TheWho:
--- Quote ---You answer me how this can be legal, and then we can discuss schooling.
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Lain, at some point you should tell us all what is not legal about the wilderness experience you put up there. I read it twice and can not find it, its just about a bunch of kids hiking and learning how to keep each other safe, watching each others backs. I dont think the shouting is illegal, a lot of kids get yelled at at home, unless it is one of those trick questions where they are all on illegal land or government land.
I dont think anyone else is going to guess at this point.
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