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Second Nature Wilderness Program
TheWho:
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--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---The hundreds of Second Nature families who are pleased with the program are not represented on this forum. That says something....
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They're free to speak here.
The thing is, kids in programs are not free to speak at all, and are coerced while in them and threatened with among other things various punishments and actually getting out to 'work the program'.
Which is not therapy, but rather coercive behavior modification.
Ho hum?
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Very strange response Niles, which program are you talking about? All kids can speak freely, that is the only way the kids can grow. I think most people are aware the kids are attending the programs because of behavior problems, thereby the reason for receiving behavior modification. Not all the kids require a therapist or need meds.
You should really try to visit one of these places before spouting off.
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Nihilanthic:
--- Quote ---Very strange response Niles, which program are you talking about? All kids can speak freely, that is the only way the kids can grow. I think most people are aware the kids are attending the programs because of behavior problems, thereby the reason for receiving behavior modification. Not all the kids require a therapist or need meds.
You should really try to visit one of these places before spouting off.
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I really think we need a sticky, locked thread just for these turds of wizdumb you occasionally spout off.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: oh my fucking god lol
Anonymous:
You should also know that it is possible to get credits whether or not you've actually had any schooling. I went to a therapeutic boarding "school". I went to class, perhaps, 3 weeks of my entire 7 month stay. When in class it was impossible to learn anything because of the level of abuse dealt with, and because we attended classes that had been in progression since the beginning of the year, without us. Kids attend school for one third of the time (at best) that the school runs. School is a "privilege", and if your participation depended on where you were in the program, whether you were doing some "work assignment" (kids handled all maintenance duties at school) or some other sundry slave or recruitment service. Suffice to say, there was NO actual education, however this "school" issued diplomas. So, you can get some kind of "credit" or "education", but it will only exist on paper.
Of course the idea that education is possible in a situation where you have been abducted and imprisoned without any form of due process, in an act of extraordinary rendition, is absurd.
I’m sorry, if parents have any level of competency they would know better than to expect education in such a circumstance.
Anonymous:
Second Nature's accreditation is piggybacked off a shitpit called the "Willow Creek School", which in turn is accredited by the "Northwest Association of Accredited Schools", whose requirements are pretty much nonexistent and whose guiding principle is apparently 'stay out of controversy' (they used to accredit Ivy Ridge until the heat came down).
Bottom line, it's not real academics.
Anonymous:
Kids who are sent to a wilderness program have pretty much abandoned the educational opportunities they had at home. 8 weeks or so without schooling is not the end of the world.
The kids can write freely and express their opinions. They get in excellent physical condition and have a lot of pride in what they accomplish. Those with serious addiction issues usually are not able to maintain sobriety after leaving the program if they go right home.
The bunch of Mormons that run Second Nature are skilled, intelligent and caring.
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