Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Second Nature Wilderness Program
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""A Mom"" ---Fuck Second Nature.
I sat through their sales, the duration of wilderness, their eve of transition lectures when the Mormons spout their craziness. They are run by Mormons. Look where they are located in the middle of nowwhere in Duchense, BumfuckUtah.
they told us that our daughter who didn't do drugs or drink, was straight-edge and therefore in DANGER. Straight-edge in Salt Lake City is a baaad thing apparently. Gangs are violent and most are straightedges in Mormon country didn't you know. WTF? Also, if you don't eat meat in Second Nature you are labelled as a control freak/anorectic/eating disorder and need a TBS. Therapy was once a week and otherwise young men or women are in charge of your child.
Thankfully, we got out of the cycle of kidnapping/wilderness/TBS, brainwashing.
--- End quote ---
So why send her?
Lain the Odd:
They're good marketers. Presumably she didn't know that it was bullshit at the time.
Anonymous:
yup, didn't know it then but now she does.
Nihilanthic:
Who, NOBODY speaks... rather, regurgitates canned boilerplate and industry buzzwords, unless they've been coached or prompted to do so. An anonymous poster spewing that very thing rings tinny like the average 'guerrilla marketeer' on poorly sampled phone-line-emulated radio commercials or ugly, bad actors pretending to be people on various cellphone plan commercials.
But then again you're right, I'm in the real world, not in the program bubble world where its normal to speak and act that way! :wink:
I also seriously doubt your daughter or any other program kid goes around talking about how nice her program staffers were all the time, unless kissing program ass is part of the household contract rules for you. But isn't she an adult by now anyway?
Hrm.
And, well, sadly, I'm more than experienced with this industry. You're obviously "NEW WHO" and can't even read the fucking post count or check how long ago I registered, nor do you have any memory or any IDEA of what I've done.
I take it you didn't get the old notes from the previous agent provocateur? :rofl: DUMB ASS.
Nevertheless, normal people do not speak like prompted, cue-carded actors or coached, brainwashed children or parents! You're so used to hearing the same crap from the same LGAT-whitewashed cow-orkers you work with that you've forgotten what normal is and it shows rather blatantly.
But, I'll end this on a note you said yourself:
--- Quote ---The reaction and experience that you just read is the norm, whether you want to believe it or not. Most of the BS you read on fornits are kids who had a hard time or who never should have attended in the first place. Anyone can throw a story up of how they were abused or hurt by the experience but these are isolated cases at best and don’t reflect the good that wilderness programs do for families.
--- End quote ---
WOW. :rofl: :o ::blah:: I don't even have to TRY anymore.
Why did the old who quit anyway?
TheWho:
--- Quote from: ""Nihilanthic"" ---
Who, NOBODY speaks... rather, regurgitates canned boilerplate and industry buzzwords, unless they've been coached or prompted to do so. An anonymous poster spewing that very thing rings tinny like the average 'guerrilla marketeer' on poorly sampled phone-line-emulated radio commercials or ugly, bad actors pretending to be people on various cellphone plan commercials.
But then again you're right, I'm in the real world, not in the program bubble world where its normal to speak and act that way! :wink:
I also seriously doubt your daughter or any other program kid goes around talking about how nice her program staffers were all the time, unless kissing program ass is part of the household contract rules for you. But isn't she an adult by now anyway?
Hrm.
And, well, sadly, I'm more than experienced with this industry. You're obviously "NEW WHO" and can't even read the fucking post count or check how long ago I registered, nor do you have any memory or any IDEA of what I've done.
I take it you didn't get the old notes from the previous agent provocateur? :rofl: DUMB ASS.
Nevertheless, normal people do not speak like prompted, cue-carded actors or coached, brainwashed children or parents! You're so used to hearing the same crap from the same LGAT-whitewashed cow-orkers you work with that you've forgotten what normal is and it shows rather blatantly.
But, I'll end this on a note you said yourself:
--- Quote ---The reaction and experience that you just read is the norm, whether you want to believe it or not. Most of the BS you read on fornits are kids who had a hard time or who never should have attended in the first place. Anyone can throw a story up of how they were abused or hurt by the experience but these are isolated cases at best and don’t reflect the good that wilderness programs do for families.
--- End quote ---
WOW. :rofl: :o ::blah:: I don't even have to TRY anymore.
Why did the old who quit anyway?
--- End quote ---
Hmmm.... Thats a bit of an odd post in response to this wilderness conversation... are you feeling okay Niles? or did you mean to post this elsewhere?
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