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Second Nature Wilderness Program
Oz girl:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---The therapists at Second Nature are excellent- the best I have encountered. They are highly trained and many are PhDs. The kids are not punished for trashing or bad-mouthing the program and their letters to parents are not censored. It works well for many kids.
The kids at wilderness have reached the point where they won't GET in the car for the parents to take them to see a therapist.
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This seems a common argument. it may be true. I can remember on one of the seasons of brat Camp the therapist seemed genuinely smart and helpful in direct contrast to the naievety and gross stupidity of the on the ground staff. (gee we twisted that girls arm for 20 minutes and she is still pissed at us. go figure) but what is the point of single competent adult if they only see the kid once a week? Afterall no phd trained adult on a good salary is going to spend 5 days a week shitting in the woods and most dont.
Anonymous:
Fuck Second Nature.
I sat through their sales, the duration of wilderness, their eve of transition lectures when the Mormons spout their craziness. They are run by Mormons. Look where they are located in the middle of nowwhere in Duchense, BumfuckUtah.
they told us that our daughter who didn't do drugs or drink, was straight-edge and therefore in DANGER. Straight-edge in Salt Lake City is a baaad thing apparently. Gangs are violent and most are straightedges in Mormon country didn't you know. WTF? Also, if you don't eat meat in Second Nature you are labelled as a control freak/anorectic/eating disorder and need a TBS. Therapy was once a week and otherwise young men or women are in charge of your child.
Thankfully, we got out of the cycle of kidnapping/wilderness/TBS, brainwashing.
psy:
--- Quote from: ""A Mom"" ---Fuck Second Nature.
I sat through their sales, the duration of wilderness, their eve of transition lectures when the Mormons spout their craziness. They are run by Mormons. Look where they are located in the middle of nowwhere in Duchense, BumfuckUtah.
they told us that our daughter who didn't do drugs or drink, was straight-edge and therefore in DANGER. Straight-edge in Salt Lake City is a baaad thing apparently. Gangs are violent and most are straightedges in Mormon country didn't you know. WTF? Also, if you don't eat meat in Second Nature you are labelled as a control freak/anorectic/eating disorder and need a TBS. Therapy was once a week and otherwise young men or women are in charge of your child.
Thankfully, we got out of the cycle of kidnapping/wilderness/TBS, brainwashing.
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Holy shit. It's a sane program parent !
::jawdrop::
Che Gookin:
Someone preserve this one in a jar of brine!
Lain the Odd:
--- Quote from: ""A Mom"" ---Fuck Second Nature.
I sat through their sales, the duration of wilderness, their eve of transition lectures when the Mormons spout their craziness. They are run by Mormons. Look where they are located in the middle of nowwhere in Duchense, BumfuckUtah.
they told us that our daughter who didn't do drugs or drink, was straight-edge and therefore in DANGER. Straight-edge in Salt Lake City is a baaad thing apparently. Gangs are violent and most are straightedges in Mormon country didn't you know. WTF? Also, if you don't eat meat in Second Nature you are labelled as a control freak/anorectic/eating disorder and need a TBS. Therapy was once a week and otherwise young men or women are in charge of your child.
Thankfully, we got out of the cycle of kidnapping/wilderness/TBS, brainwashing.
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Yeah.. that's the basic idea. Sometimes they come up with some ridiculous pretense for a problem as mentioned above.. sometimes if the parents buy into it they don't even go that far, just "they need it, now get us our referral cash!" And despite whatever they may say about their religious affiliations or lack thereof, they ARE Mormons and DO push that in their beliefs and practices.
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