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Anonymous:
Dang, Ginger, your substitution mutilated that sentence.
*In my opinion*, the troll _n_e_e_d_s_ to up his dose.
Julie
Antigen:
DJ, so what's the answer? What did they tell you in school about why you must use the least restrictive means?
There is nothing on earth intended for innocent people so horrible as a school. To begin with, it is a prison. But it is in some respects more cruel than a prison. In a prison, for instance, you are not forced to read books written by the wardens...School was to me a sentence of penal servitude.
--George Bernard Shaw
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Anonymous:
Julie, could you be any more wordy and nonsensical?
Troll Control:
--- Quote ---On 2006-03-23 09:13:00, Eudora wrote:
"DJ, so what's the answer? What did they tell you in school about why you must use the least restrictive means?
There is nothing on earth intended for innocent people so horrible as a school. To begin with, it is a prison. But it is in some respects more cruel than a prison. In a prison, for instance, you are not forced to read books written by the wardens...School was to me a sentence of penal servitude.
--George Bernard Shaw
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It goes back to the basic underlying theme that all treatment is voluntary (except in extreme cases, as I said before - less than 1% of all cases). In order to have voluntary treatment, one must be in the least restrictive environment and free from coercion. It's really that simple.
It is also precisely why "programs" don't work. By definition, there is coercion and a restricted environment. Let me reiterate: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS FORCED TREATMENT. It does not, and cannot work.
This premise also underpins the moral/professional compass of program workers. Programs espouse logic that contradicts the basic tenets of therapy, therefore any practitioner that works in these systems, by definition once more, has acted contrary to their professional oath. Again, it's that simple.
Antigen:
Karen, no, it goes back waaaayyy before that. Here's the first Carey post I know of.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... art=0#8549
Carey
Frequent poster
Joined: 2003-01-18
There may be some anon before that, but I can't tell. I don't remember any mention of the hard drive sale till well into late `03.
We must create an atmosphere where the crooked cop fears the honest cop, and not the other way around.
Frank Serpico
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