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the French Documentary on Tranquility Bay/WWASPS

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Anonymous:
Buzz,


This is the problem with these kinds of stories.

"The film follows the progress of a defamation suit that WWASP brought against single mother, Sue Scheff, who set up a website detailing her objections to the way her son was treated in Tranquility Bay, Jamaica."

They aren't accurate.  With facts that are as false as this one, who can you beleive?

BuzzKill:
Well, Not having had the op to see the documentary as of yet, I would say that this is a result of the blurb author not paying close enough attention to the content; and making some assumptions that would have been corrected, had they paid closer attention.

 The only miss-statement in the quote is that Sue's son went to TB. I expect the blurb author assumed her beef was with TB - b/c the film is largely dealing with TB; and not understanding that TB is part of a much larger problem; and that Susan was objecting to the larger problem. I'd say, probably, they also assume one of the boys interviewed was Susan's child.

We know differently - but the blurb author does not - and is reviewing a film in a language that is not their own.
The Blurb is inaccurate with regard to this bit about Suan'as details - but I don't think this means the film itself will be inaccurate in any respect.

WWASPS efforts to with hold it from American viewers, makes me think it is most likely very accurate - and disturbing - and that is why they are fighting to keep it off the air over here.

Keep in mind - these are the same people who brag about keeping a girl on her face in OP for 18 months! No problem with telling the world all about it. So, why are they fighting to keep this French documentary off the air, unless it is exposing disturbing information that is all to accurate, and that might actually effect business?

But, as WWASPS doesn't want to let us see it, we shall have to reserve final judgment until we can somehow thwart their efforts to with hold it.

Anonymous:
Personally, I think the WWASPS v. PURE trial will go down in history as a non-consequential in the big picture.  If that's what the documentary focuses on, then it's a waste of time and money.  The stories the children told to help bolster Scheff's case have all been told before .. there are hundreds of them out there.  WWASPS is past the point of worrying about suffering any consequences as a result of allegations of abuse.  Frankly, most people who hear this stuff blame the parents for being so reckless with their child's safety and well-being.

WWASPS is adding more and more schools to their network ... spreading like a cancer into every region of the U.S. It's past the point of trying to stop them ... and besides, you are all forgetting something key to their success and fast growth:  TROUBLED PARENTS.  As long as there are troubled parents, the WWAAPS programs will be full of their kids.

That's a fact ... which no documentary French or American made will change. At best, it will provide some interesting entertainment, like Brat Camp, people are desensitized to child abuse and/or exploitation.  It's become reality tv.

Pass the popcorn!!!

 :smokin:

Anonymous:
Case in point, for every WWASPS school that gets shut down or turned down ... another one pops up.  I expect to see double the number of WWASPS member schools and programs within the next 5 years, maybe even triple. Even if regulated, but the numbers make sense, they will still BUILD IT AND PEOPLE WILL COME. They have the war chest (financing) and like I said earlier, they have the desperate, troubled parents (clientle).

Antigen:
Why begin and end w/ WWASP? This has been going on for over thirty years, folks. It started out w/ Bobby DuPont as head of the National Institute of Drug Abuse being tasked by Nixon to find a magic bullet for the expected wave of heroin addicted Vietnam vets. That epidemic never materialized, but the war had already been declared, funded and set into motion.

So just lately, ya'll have come into contact with these lunatics. Welcome to my nightmare. And the pro-drug war, pro-program people seem to be all a twitter with excitement over the coming coupe, don't they? But I think all this publicity and success is about the worst thing that could ever happen to the industry.

There's a major, glaring and insurmountable flaw in their reasoning. They based their enthusiasm on the idea that the vast majority of Program graduates are better off than before and pleased with the experience. Nothing could be further from the truth. Most program grads, even those who sincerely believe that their lives took a turn for the better as a result of the intervention would not place their own kids into a similar program nor recommend it to friends.

The growing army of happy Program supporters simply doesn't exist. If it did, well think about it. How many families have been involved in the toughlove hategroup over the last 36 years or so? Hundreds of thousands? A million? Millions? So... where are they now? Except for the few reprobates in government and those who have cloistered themselves in the industry, no one else with firsthand experience w/ these groups will support or even tolerate them in their own lives and communities.

No, I think this whole sad saga is about at the tipping point. I also think it's closely tied to broader social and political trends. Take the Büsh people for example. They've been stark raving loony for decades. It's been truly frightening for someone like me watching someone like that flakazoid, Donald Rumsfeld, hold forth with his diatribes on pop philosophy in response to important questions on foreign policy and not be dragged from the podium by the nice young men in their clean white coats. But that's changing.

More and more people are starting to come to grips with the harsh reality that these people are nucking futz. And I think the Martin Lee Anderson story is starting to break broadly. They're not just talking about these particular sadistic guards who's flesh and blood was involved in that torture/murder. They're talking about the sadistic lunatics who give them their orders. And they happen to be the very same people who put their own kids in the early Synanon based programs, the Seed and Straight.

The hook is coming out, these dangerous lunatics are being dragged off stage, the game is almost over. Thank God, thank God!

...to disarm the people (is) the best and most effective way to enslave them...
-- George Mason

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