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« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2006, 12:49:00 PM »
http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com/loadPr ... userID=140

Wow, this fella has absolutely ZERO credentials to be a counselor, buit there he is.  Obviously, not one of their "masters level" counselors.

The more I look, the more I am amazed by the blatant false advertising and the extremely unqualified staff.  Can't they find some real professionals?
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« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2006, 01:02:00 PM »
http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com/loadPr ... userID=147

Peer group counselor with no degree at all listed.


http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com/loadPr ... userID=132

Peer group counselor with an "online" degree.  Scary.

http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com/loadPr ... userID=186

Teacher without any credentials listed.  Makes ya wonder...

The list goes on.  For $80k/year, you don't get much, huh?  

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« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2006, 03:10:00 PM »
What about this title "counselor", which all the programs use.
In many cases I've seen, it's a glorified babysitting position.
In Tx it's considered a "professional" title and can't be used by anyone who doesn't possess credentials to do so. Hasn't stopped the programs here.
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« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2006, 05:11:00 PM »
According to SACS, the teachers only have to degreed in their field of teaching in a private
school..teachers do not have to be certified according to SACS. However, they cannot be cross utilized as HLA is doing...and, HLA cannot advertise the teachers are ALL certified...but they do...As far as counselors,the HLA counselors
are advertised as 44 of them, all licensed...THey are not licensed period. Most do not have clinical experience as advertised..They are fresh out of graduate school,an MSW,or they have attended a seminary...Figure that one out..
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« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2006, 07:47:00 PM »
Seminary? hope that's not a Catholic one. Those have been breeding grounds for pedophiles in the past. Sad, but true. It is irrefutable these days - and I would not want one of those guys "teaching" my child unless he was thoroughly vetted first.
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« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2006, 08:41:00 PM »
Licensed, Masters Level Counselors...American Intercontinental University also has campuses all over the US..So, honestly we don't know exactly how 'where' she got her M. ED. from.
However, what right does HLA have to assign troubled children to her care?
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« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2006, 10:20:00 PM »
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On 2006-04-11 14:11:00, juniper2 wrote:

"According to SACS, the teachers only have to degreed in their field of teaching in a private

school..teachers do not have to be certified according to SACS. However, they cannot be cross utilized as HLA is doing...and, HLA cannot advertise the teachers are ALL certified...but they do..."


What are the DOE requirements for teachers in private schools?
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« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2006, 12:45:00 AM »
"Georgia Private school educators may or may not be required to hold state certification depending on the local school policy.."

  Georgia public school educators must hold certification  Georgia Law O.S.G.A. 20-2-200
regulated by the Professional Standards Commission...

  Isn't it a joke that you can get a public school education with certified teachers, yet in a private school where one is paying upwards of 60,000 dollars, one cannot find a certified teacher...and in HLA's den, nary a certified counselor...
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« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2006, 01:09:00 AM »
That is the unfortunate truth about private business vs. public. A private school will never have the accountability of a public one. A public school is subject to taxpayers demanding answers, whether it takes years or whatever. It will always get in the papers, on the news, etc. A private school is ultimately accountable to its owners/investors. If the parents of students can make enough noise, they may be able to get on the news, but it will always take longer.

If you complain to any news organization that your local public school has uncredentialed workers, you will get somewhere. Good luck with HLA.
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« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2006, 01:18:00 AM »
The new English teacher has a BA in  - THEATRE

That isn't a proper credential is it?
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« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2006, 08:19:00 AM »
American InterContinental University is accredited by the Commission on Colleges of the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools to award Associate, Bachelor's and Master's degrees. This umbrella accreditation includes all approved branch campuses of the University.

While the university does offer on-line degrees it also has many branch campuses and is accredited.  

Most universities now offer on-line degrees.  It's becoming more common every year.
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« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2006, 08:49:00 AM »
How common is it that mental health care providers aren't degreed in any discipline related to the field?

Would you let a PhD in chemical engineering perform surgery on you?

I see you avoided that issue entirely, n/a.  Why don't you comment on the appropriateness of someone with no degree providing counseling services?  I'll be waiting for your reply.  Thanks.
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« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2006, 09:49:00 AM »
Perhaps the person's qualifications are the BA in Psychology, not the MEd in Education.  The psychology degree is from Saint Anselm College according to the link provided in an earlier page on this site.

I am not trying to defend anyone, so please, be kind.  I am just pointing out that a on-line degree is not necessarily bad.  Twenty years ago, a distance education degree program was questionable.  Now, very good universities have expanded their course offerings to include a variety of web based courses--many of which are interactive with the professor and the class.  It's just a new world of education.
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« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2006, 10:12:00 AM »
Let us be honest..There is no dispute of the person in question getting a BA in Psyche, or
getting an M.Ed. however she could..THese are not apporpriate credentials to be dealing with
troubled children..period...
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« Reply #29 on: April 12, 2006, 10:19:00 AM »
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Perhaps the person's qualifications are the BA in Psychology...


But your employer states that there are over 40 masters level counselors on staff.  How many are there really?

Your employer also states that "peer group counselors" are all masters level.  How do you reconcile this with a peer group counselor with a BA?
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