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Anonymous:
Actually, Paradise Cove was not raided.  It was under investigation for abuse by Samoan authorities.  The program began sending kids back to the US until there were no more kids left. This process took place over a period of time. The situation at Dundee Ranch was much different.  Paradise Cove was not shut down ... it voluntarily closed down but I think the negative publicity and confirmed allegations of abuse obviously had a lot to do with the decision to close the program.

Anonymous:
Notice these programs did not close due to a lack of interest by parents. Even with all the press, all the horrible abuse, parents STILL wanted to send their kid to THESE facilities. Remember this when you think these programs can be shut down by simply informing people of 'the truth'. They could care less what goes on, as long as they can rid themselves of their 'troubled kid'.  ::noway::

CCM girl 1989:
Here's the thing, Brian and Angie Viafanua were at Cross Creek Manor back in the very beginning. Brian and Angie met in Minnesota. Her family is from there, and Brian used to play for the Vikings (football team). Brian is originally from Samoa. They were close with owner Bob Lichfield. I know that Brian and Bob talked quite a bit about opening a program in Samoa because Brian had citizenship. Not only that, but because it was inexpensive to run, which meant more dollars in their pockets.

I am sure after things got shut down, Brian returned to Cross Creek Manor until Bob found another location to open a school, then gave him a ticket to Carolina Springs Academy.

I knew both Brian and Angie back in the day. There are 2 things I will say.........they (esp. Brian) are completely full of themselves, and 15 years ago when they were a little younger(so was I)they seemed like okay people. They were always driven, and maybe it was by the almighty dollar?

Who knows! This school in Samoa is shut down. But, who still owns the property? What is there right now?

Also, this website teen solutions? It's a WWASP website for sure, but I am surprised to see all these new schools I have never heard of!?!! Not sure what's up with that? That's why this WWASP needs to be squashed, once and for all.

CCM girl 1989:
Is it just me, or does this teen solution website remind you of shopping for a new/used car?

http://teensoulutionsoptions.com/index.html

As soon as I see Bob Lichfield on TV doing a Cal Worthington and his dog Spot impression, I will be forced to take matters into my own hands lol!

For those of you who are like huh? Cal Worthington was this guy who was a slimmer version of Boss Hog (white suit and cowboy hat) that had a number of car dealerships in California. Back in the 70's and 80's +++ he would come on, with his "dog Spot" who was a lion, and do crazy stunts. It was major cheeseball. Anyway, those of you from Cali know what I am talking about! As soon as there are commercials for these schools airing, it's over!!!

BuzzKill:
//Actually, Paradise Cove was not raided. It was under investigation for abuse by Samoan authorities//

I suppose in my mind, being investigated equates to being raided; at least when the investigation is effective enough to lead to a closing. But I can't argue with you, the situation at Dundee was unique. Even so - there too, it was decided to close due to an investigation. Costa Rica didn't close Dundee - Narvin did.  And also, like with Paradise Cove, many of the students were shuffled off to other WWASP operated "schools". Many wound up at Tranquility Bay.
And now, he has re-opened it under a new name - Pillars of Hope. Typical.

//The program began sending kids back to the US until there were no more kids left.//

Or to Mexico. The little boy, Steven, whose puppy was thrown over the cliff edge, was eventually pulled out of one of High Impact's dogs cages.

//Notice these programs did not close due to a lack of interest by parents. Even with all the press, all the horrible abuse, parents STILL wanted to send their kid to THESE facilities. Remember this when you think these programs can be shut down by simply informing people of 'the truth'. They could care less what goes on, as long as they can rid themselves of their 'troubled kid'.//

Well, maybe in some cases.
But I think Most parents have no idea the Program is associated with the bad press - I mean the new parents.
When I asked Jane, of Teen Help, if there was any association with the "school" that had been in the news, I was told no.
All I knew was that some such program had been in the news - I didn't know enough details to ask pointed questions, and so was very easy to lie to. But the point I'm trying to make is - I was lied to. In My Opinion, This is the motivation behind the name changes. It make is much more difficult for the next crop of victims to find the pertinent information - b/c they don't know what to look for.
Also - I can tell you from a parent's point of view - if you don't understand the interconnectedness of it all - you can read of abuse at one "school" - and take comfort that it isn't Your "school" - Not realizing they are carbon copies of one another. Not realizing the "fired" abusive staff member may well turn up employed next at your child's "school".

///Also, this website teen solutions? It's a WWASP website for sure, but I am surprised to see all these new schools I have never heard of!?!! Not sure what's up with that? That's why this WWASP needs to be squashed, once and for all.///

Speaking of the name change game. . .
I am not sure if this is Teen Help re-named; or, if this is one of the many Parent owned referral web sites. It looks more like Teen Help to me. The parent sites, are usually not so detailed. Usually just photos of the pamphlets, some simple graphics, the questionnaire, the 800 number and email form to request information. There isn't usually so much info on so many of the schools. So, I am of the opinion Teen Help is running from bad press.

As for the new programs - this is just business as unusual, when business is booming.
Doesn't look like anything is hurting Bobby's profit margin much - does it?


PS

Can you believe they have Tranquility Bay listed as a Treatment Center!
Man alive. .
If only there were laws to enforce truth in advertising -
They'd have to call it a brutal and harshly abusive Treatment Center.

*[ This Message was edited by: BuzzKill on 2006-02-28 08:38 ]

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