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« Reply #75 on: February 28, 2006, 08:14:00 PM »
Hey reagan. Damn those 7th grade type insults cut so deeply.


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« Reply #76 on: February 28, 2006, 09:03:00 PM »
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On 2006-02-27 11:35:00, stillahippie564 wrote:





"good lord,i don't "worship" the guy.....he was an execellent guitar player....no,not jimi hendrix,but his style was unique and all his own!





i enjoyed many of his concerts! just like you enjoy slash or whoever....nirvana! i listen to everything.....black hole sun is a cool tune to bye sound garden.....! alice cooper was my favorite for a long time! i met him 3-4 times!i had every record he {at the time 1986-88} ever made,all signed by him! he's the original freak!





he was the weirdest thing in rock music in his time!hanging himself,getting his head chopped off!





you name it,he did it.....i love it all!...hippie"













You left out the Beatles, Elvis and Metallica.  Everything huh?  Your not into top 40, your into top 10.  You listen to whatever MTV and giant corp radio tell you to listen to.  Maybe someday you'll hear a band that's not on the radio every 20 seconds with a billion album sales.









what do they call it? oxymorin I think.  A bunch of fucking hippys claiming to be revolutionarys when their really just a bunch of sheep that follow.  Put down the dope and go take a bath, and get a haircut ya loser.









oh and apperantly you never read the "Million Dollar Babies" album insert.  That album was written and recorded by studio musicians.  Alice Cooper was just a stage clown with a gimick.  GG Allen would have raped him, pissed on him and then kicked him in the crowd to be eaten by cannibals.



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What a stupid argument.  Identifying with what are essentially fashion trends is pretty sheeplike, and calling yourself a "hippy" or a "punk" is like calling yourself a Tory or a Whig.  The predictability of attacking hippies to "prove your punkness" is lame, really the same kind of knee-jerk reaction that you claim to be so above and beyond.  







As far as the Grateful Dead being the "original undergeround band", well that stinks of the typical self-congratulatory hippy bullshit that makes people want to kick their asses.  Yeah, Garcia had a somewhat innovative guitar style, but to listen to some of their fans tell it, they fucking invented music.  In reality, most everything the Grateful Dead did was done with more style and finesse by Miles Davis on "Bitches Brew".







Saying that something sucks simply because it is popular is a pretty immature notion, and the "angry young punk" costume looks ridiculous on anyone over age 23, almost as ridiculous as a balding man with long hair or dreadlocks.  By pretending that your particular choice of music, fashion, hairstyle, etc. somehow qualifies you as "subversive", "hip", "radical", or some other "threat to the mainstream" in and of itself is to delude yourself, cloud your thinking, and clamp yourself down into the most brain-dead, trivia-obsessed, self-absorbed programmed, pre-packaged lifestyle imaginable, all the while reassuring yourself that you are somehow superior to others who do not share your enlightened vision.  If you need external signals to tell you who is on your side and who isn't, you have already lost.  There are DEA agents who know every word to "Trucking" and drug-testing lab technicians with Black Flag tattoos.



















Grow up, the both of yas, and learn to think for yourselves.  There's a lot more roles in life you can play besides "hippy martyr" or "punk avenger".  "







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 :nworthy:  :nworthy:





But definitely if forced to choose, I would be a hippy anyday over a "punk".  At least most people find hippies likable and kind of camp.  But the 40 year old punks?     :wave: Your ex-wife says hi.  Thanks for the the $$money$$ she's been spending on me.  She's kind of an ulgy bitch, but she loves it up her ass.  At least you two have that much in common.  :wave:  :wave:
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hey, its one of those funny 40 year old thinks-they-are-tough-junkie-thin punks now!


Everyone point and laugh at the aging angry self described punk.

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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« Reply #77 on: February 28, 2006, 09:05:00 PM »
:flame: 7th grade  :flame: I learned that one in 5th grade goddammit.
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« Reply #78 on: February 28, 2006, 09:08:00 PM »
40???????    I'm 35 dumbass.   ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::   You cock suckers need to get your grades and ages right.
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« Reply #79 on: February 28, 2006, 09:16:00 PM »
I think 40 year old punks are cool.  I think it shows strength of character to express who you are in the face of adversarial social expectations. Fuck all the social standards and conventions.  More power to the 40 year old punks!

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« Reply #80 on: February 28, 2006, 11:59:00 PM »
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.all of the hippie music was underground,dude.....as a few generations took over,it became commercial! in its time it wasn't commercial at all! the gratful dead was probably the first "undergroud" band!....they didn't scape the commercial society till 25 yrs after they hit the scene!....alice cooper was way "underground" in his first 4 albums!.....even the beatles were "underground" in thier last 3 years....especially "sgt.pepper" "magical mystery tour" albums!....they were a very far cry from the traditional trends in music! they made "underground" a household name!.....pink floyd was extremly "underground"!....it would take 13 records to finally hit pay dirt with "dark side of the moon"....oh and uh,every band is hoping to make a sucsess in thier venture in an album,its the way they eat,pay thier bills,

make more musical recordings etc etc...

http://www.punk77.co.uk/punkhistory/punkhistinto.htm"



tons of info here, but the truth about Skrewdriver is totally avoided.  here's an excert:

 ::book:: The band existed as two very distinct entities, Skrewdriver Mk1 evolved out of the punk explosion that gripped Britain in 1976. The early period was all about the music, the fashion, and four lads from the north west of England having a good time. Two years later the impetus had gone, bad decisions had been made, key players had left and a lack of musical focus led to their decline into a very average rock (not punk) band. They limped on into early 1980 before finally expiring. Then two years later singer Ian Stuart revived the name with totally different personnel and the full National Front manifesto. Unfortunately the image of Skrewdriver will be forever tarnished by the extreme political affiliations of this later incarnation. People are entitled to their own opinions but this is not the place to debate the rights or wrongs of Ian Stuart?s politics as expressed through Skrewdriver Mk2. This is the story of those exciting early days of 76-78.  ::book::



They tip toe the truth with careful wording.  Skrewdriver was the grand daddys of Nazi Skinhead Punk.  By the early ninties there were so many skinhead factions I couldn't keep up with what all the different colored shoelaces in Doc Martins meant.  I remember red was Nazi and green was SHARP (skin heads against racial prejudice)  Though I've always dug Minor Threat and Agnostic Front, Skinhead has never been my forte.  I've always been a Streetpunk/Hawk.
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« Reply #81 on: March 01, 2006, 12:01:00 AM »
Nice sig
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« Reply #82 on: March 01, 2006, 12:08:00 AM »
thanks
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« Reply #83 on: March 01, 2006, 12:16:00 AM »
no problem
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« Reply #84 on: March 01, 2006, 12:52:00 AM »
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Skrewdriver was the grand daddys of Nazi Skinhead Punk.  By the early ninties there were so many skinhead factions I couldn't keep up with what all the different colored shoelaces in Doc Martins meant.  I remember red was Nazi and green was SHARP (skin heads against racial prejudice)  Though I've always dug Minor Threat and Agnostic Front, Skinhead has never been my forte.  I've always been a Streetpunk/Hawk.

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who fucking caresabout different types of skinheads and punks? What a trip, and then you insult "hippies".  You are a child in an aging body.

everyone point and laugh at the 40ish steetpunk/hawk.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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« Reply #85 on: March 01, 2006, 04:13:00 AM »
GregFl is a sissy fag. ::both::  ::both::  ::both::  ::both::  ::both::  ::both::  ::both::  ::both::  ::both::  ::both::  ::both::  ::both::  ::both::  ::both::  ::both::  ::both::

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« Reply #86 on: March 01, 2006, 07:50:00 AM »
You know reagan, I don't care whether you like me or not. In fact, when people who are acting like you act don't like me I view that as victory, a kind of confirmation of my basic humanity.

Also, when you choose to threaten and insult people in a degrading manner, you ever stop to think who is really degraded?  Hint, it isn't the person you direct that extreme nonsense towards.  

It is kind of like a monkey throwing shit at people at the zoo.  THe monkey ends up with shit all over himself and everyone has a good chuckle at his expense.  You sir, are making a monkey out of yourself.
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« Reply #87 on: March 01, 2006, 08:03:00 AM »
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Skrewdriver was the grand daddys of Nazi Skinhead Punk.  By the early ninties there were so many skinhead factions I couldn't keep up with what all the different colored shoelaces in Doc Martins meant.  I remember red was Nazi and green was SHARP (skin heads against racial prejudice)  Though I've always dug Minor Threat and Agnostic Front, Skinhead has never been my forte.  I've always been a Streetpunk/Hawk.



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who fucking caresabout different types of skinheads and punks? What a trip, and then you insult "hippies".  You are a child in an aging body.



everyone point and laugh at the 40ish steetpunk/hawk.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:





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It is kind of funny.  I mean the true punks, rebels, miscreants and non-conformists don't feel the need to run around trying to prove[/b] how cool and anti-establishment they are. :lol:
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« Reply #88 on: March 01, 2006, 10:38:00 AM »
I'd rather be funny and make people laugh than an embarrassed bed wetter like you.  Go get your mommy to change your sheets you bed wetting sissy fag. ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::
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« Reply #89 on: March 01, 2006, 11:47:00 AM »
I guess this is as good a thread as any to interject this.....being on the topic of skinheads and anti-heroes.

I have pretty strong opinions about people who dress to a certain extreme, or cultivate a lifestyle based on an extreme ideal.  Back then, you had to seriously pay a price for the music you listened to, or the clothes you wore.  If you were Punk or even New Wave, there was only one group you could run with and that was others like you.  I hated that.  Why couldnt I make friends who didnt necessarily listen to The Ramones or New Order?  

In short, I call it the "I Want to be Different, Just Like Everyone Else" Syndrome.

About 5 days ago I decided to shave my head completely.  And I mean shaven; not artfully redesigned into some funky, color-infused peacock display....I mean a good old down-to-earth-home-clip-job-on-the bathroom-floor, shaven.  

I did it not because I wanted to be a butch dyke, or a skinhead or so I would fit in at the Agnostic Front show....I did it because I figured it was the best way to force me to be honest with myself and others about what I want to achieve.  Okay, I know this sounds like bullshit, but let me explain.

I am your slightly a-typical housewife type, I have a kid, I shop at Whole Foods, I drive a pretensious European automobile. I dont really have any close friends because I have chosen to separate myself from all of the "Wives", or better known as the "women married to all of my husband's friends".  I dont like American Idol or Survivor or Desperate Housewives.  Now, this doesnt mean that I havent attempted to conform to my current presented lifestyle, I go to the functions, I watch the shows (under duress only) and I glance at the gossip rags on the shelves at HEB when I am checking out so I can know whats going on with Brangelina during the weekly card nite get-together.  I am miserable most of the time unless I am day dreaming about what I would really want my life to be like.  I am not ungrateful, mind you....but I am not being true to my values either.

I became certain that shaving my head was the answer to all of this.  I knew that everyone would be forced to judge me.  I knew I would be forced to pursue my goals of having my own business and being successful on my own terms....because I wasnt going to qualify for a desk job anymore in an interview.  I knew my "friends" would have to decide if they wanted me over for girls nite anymore or to be seen with me in public.  I really thought that it would help to clarify my environment so I could stop justifying my.....well, my justifications.

In truth, I didnt do it to fit IN, I did it to fit OUT so that I could be true to who I wanted to be, not what was being expected of me by people I didnt even care that much about anyway.

In many ways its been like getting a clean slate....clean head=clean slate. People stare sometimes, they compliment me sometimes, they ask me if I am sick sometimes....and it doesnt bother me.  I dont dress all in black or wear a chain wallet or have excessive tattoos.  You can still find me in my soccer-mom capris and flip flops. But I am not taken for granted anymore....nor do I take my environment for granted either. I dont think you have to give yourself over completely to an extreme ideal in order to express yourself....people just sometimes need a little reality....and I dont mean of the television variety.  

I will be very honest and say that I have always counted on a certain amount of attractiveness that I believed I possesed.  It gave me confidence and helped me socially where I might have faltered otherwise.  I wanted to see what would happen if I cast it off.  A vanity purge.  

So far so good. Ill keep anyone updated who cares.
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