Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
Rancho Valmora in New Mexico
Son Of Serbia:
--- Quote ---On 2006-02-26 14:12:00, shopgirl2005 wrote:
"Believe me I've tried every single treatment possible at home and nothing works in the long run so don't talk to me about this because you have no idea what you are talking about. I've never heard any positive comment on any type of therapeutic facility from you so I rather not hear your opinion because you are not objective."
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If you don't want our honest opinions, then why did you ask for them? Face it, you don't want honesty from us at all. You don't want OBJECTIVITY either. What you're really after is for someone here to say that you're still a good mother, even though you've already given up on your son, and are intent on abandoning him to the hands of total strangers.
Why do you care what we think anyways, when it's clear that you've already made up your mind about this?
The fact is, people like myself, DJ, Robert, and a shitload of others who post here have real, first hand, personal experience in these places.
They are abusive, exploitative, non-theraputic, and ultimately a big waste of time and money. These places hurt a lot more than help. And yes, the Behavior Modifaction Industry is a huge scam, concocted by criminals who've built their lives around capitalizing on the misery of unsuspecting families. Helping our kids is not their priority, what really matters to them is how much money they can squeeze from dopes like you! Why else do you think that these scam shacks are run by
corporations, instead of not-for-profit groups like legitimate schools are?
You really should put some thought into this, before exiling your son to some rock in the middle of nowhere. You would do well to take our advice seriously. We're only trying to help your son, and save your bank account in the process.
Of course, if you prefer to be suckered by a bunch of frauds, well then I guess that's something you'll have to live with.
How does that old saying go?...oh yeah:
"A fool and his money are easily parted."
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[ This Message was edited by: Son Of Serbia on 2006-02-27 06:56 ]
Anonymous:
We are looking to place my 17 yr old daughter in rancho valmora, and we are not "bad parents" we have not "given up" on our daughter. We simply have 10 months left before she is 18 and this is our last chance to get her straightened out before she can decline treatment legally. She is a cocaine addict who is obsessed with her boyfriend, who supplies cocaine to her. he is abusive. She denies his abuse. The police are helpful when she is missing and help return her, but she immediately runs away. This all started when the cocaine use started in september-october of last year. Before that she was a normal teen who had ups and downs, but never disappeared for two days at a time and showed up with bruises and needed to be hospitalized. We need to place her in a safe, locked facility so she can be treated, because she will leave our home if she does a day program. Ever try keeping a 17 year old in the house from 3 pm until 7.30 am? She ran away the last day she was home TWICE in 12 hours while we where home. We cannot handcuff her to the bed, we cannot lock her in the room (she would jump out the window) we cannot maintain employment if you have to drop off at a day program in the am (can't get to work before 9.30) and pick up in the pc (must leave work at 2 pm) Our hope is to get her therapy and counseling, and she will not remain in our home to do so. She only runs away to see the loser boyfriend, who is homeless.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-02-27 10:50:00, Anonymous wrote:
We cannot handcuff her to the bed, we cannot lock her in the room (she would jump out the window)
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Of course not, that would be considered abuse so just drop her off with some strangers and pay them to do it for you. :roll:
--- Quote ---Our hope is to get her therapy and counseling,
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She ain't gonna get it at any of those mindrape mills.
Deborah:
If you can't manage to hold her against her will at home, what methods do you imagine the facilty will use to keep her detained?
What treatment model will she be subjected to for her 'addiction'?
How will they handle "detox"?
Will she be physically or chemically restrained?
By whom, and are they required to report the nature and length of each restraint?
Will they use a solitude room (closet)? Will she be clothed or naked?
Will she be denied access to a bathroom while in solitude?
How will you know if she is indeed being 'helped'?
Will you and the facility abide by the federal ICPC law?
Will you have regular, unmonitored contact with her?
If not, how will you know if the program is providing a useful service for your daughter?
Those for starters.
LMJ630:
Shopgirl, I don't know the first thing about Rancho Valmora. But if it is at all similar to some of the other places that are advertised as residential treatment centers, then you should steer clear. Most places have been accused of abusing children, and their philosophy - behavior modification - is completely ineffective at best, horribly damaging at worst.
I know that the responses of some of the posters on here may seem harsh, but please try to understand where they are coming from. They have either been through one of these programs or have children who went through one, and have first-hand knowledge of how horribly wrong these places can be. In their own way, they are trying to save you from making a terrible mistake. Most places will just make your daughter's problems worse, and she may never forgive you for sending her away.
If you are still dead-set on sending your daughter away, make sure you THOROUGHLY research places first. Don't rely on what some educational consultant tells you - most of them get "referral fees" (a/k/a kickbacks) for recommending schools. Don't rely on accreditation - make sure the place is licensed and monitored by the state. Check the Better Business Bureau, the local courts, and try to visit the campus unannounced. If you don't get full access to the place, that is a HUGE red flag.
My advice, though, would be to find her a very good therapist who can help her work through her issues. Good luck.
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