Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Daytop Village
Swan Lake 86-87 by Savage
odie:
--- Quote ---On 2006-02-22 06:20:00, Anonymous wrote:
" Sorry about your friend but suicide and murder are 2 completly different things. TOo bad you guys are so vengful and cant carry on a conversation youve proved your points again and again that being you have no idea what your talking about so take care stay clean and keep comming back.
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And just would you call the incident about 5 years ago in California where a kid was in Daytop, told them he was contemplating suicide, ran away from the facility, and killed himself?
Keep coming back? LOL I stopped going to those religious cults ages ago.
...it is worth discussing radical changes, not in the expectation that they will be adopted promptly but for two other reasons. One is to construct an ideal goal, so that incremental changes can be judged by whether they move the institutional structure toward or away from that ideal. The other reason is very different. It is so that if a crisis requiring or facilitating radical change does arise, alternatives will be available that have been carefully developed and fully explored."
Milton Friedman
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Anonymous:
You cant blame Daytop because the kid split and killed himself. Once he splits he's are on his own. I saw a suicide attempt while in there and the person was immediately moved to psychiatric care and properly handled. Obviously if your a junkie your already suicidal but you wouldnt understand that having never been one.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-02-22 09:14:00, Anonymous wrote:
" You cant blame Daytop because the kid split and killed himself.
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Oh yes you can! If a kid actually DID have a problem before entering Daytop it's just made worse. If they DON'T have a problem before entering, they do when they leave.
--- Quote ---Once he splits he's are on his own.
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What about all those wonderful things he took away from Daytop??
--- Quote --- Obviously if your a junkie your already suicidal
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Not true at all.
--- Quote ---but you wouldnt understand that having never been one."
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You have no idea who you're talking to. Hooked for eight years, physically, ended it with NO help from a fucking program.
odie:
--- Quote ---On 2006-02-22 09:14:00, Anonymous wrote:
" You cant blame Daytop because the kid split and killed himself. Once he splits he's are on his own. I saw a suicide attempt while in there and the person was immediately moved to psychiatric care and properly handled. Obviously if your a junkie your already suicidal but you wouldnt understand that having never been one."
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Are you serious or what? Daytop was told by the kid that he was thinking about suicide and they did nothing to prevent it. To use the lame excuse that just because he didn't kill himself on the facility they are not at fault is pure ignorance. They had an ethical obligation to do something but did not.
They know that it is human nature to take up causes whereby a man may oppress his neighbor, no matter how unjustly. ... Hence they have had no trouble in finding men who would preach the damnability and heresy of the new doctrine from the very pulpit.
--Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer
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Anonymous:
Again if your a junkie and you know its bad for you and can kill, you then your suicidal if you continue to use it knowing you can die. I was there for 3 years if I had a quater for everyone who said they were gonna kill themselves i'd make bill gates look like a homeless person.
You guys are miserable , still using junkies too bad.
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