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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy

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odie:

--- Quote ---On 2006-02-08 13:06:00, HLA Truth wrote:

"I disagree with you. Behavior modification is only a part of the program. There is MUCH more to HLA than behavior mod. To say that HLA is only a behavior mod program is a gross distortion of the facts."

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No actually that isn't how behavior modification works. You can't use it sometimes and other times not. Any adolescent setting that uses behavior modification as a means of shaping behavior will have disastrous results when being administered by people not completely educated in this modality of treatment. This is where many programs end up screwing the kids up more then when they first got there. I have quite a bit of experience in this area and have come to a realization that better results come from a cognitive behavioral approach when working with kids. Using a kid's strengths to build him up will have much better results then to have them feeling worse and sometimes even hopeless because they are punished repeatedly for making menial bad judgements.
You should be allowed to do whatever you want with your own person and property, as long as you don't physically harm the person or property of a nonconsenting other.
Peter McWilliams - Ain't Nobody's Business If I Do
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Troll Control:

--- Quote ---On 2006-02-08 13:06:00, HLA Truth wrote:

"I disagree with you. Behavior modification is only a part of the program. There is MUCH more to HLA than behavior mod. To say that HLA is only a behavior mod program is a gross distortion of the facts."

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Odie is spot on in his comments. Behavior Mod is not a "part time" method. It must be applied full time to have any effect (even though it is comparatively ineffective to other methods). It simply won't work on a part time basis, as the result is what I like to call "harshness balanced with inconsistency."

Seriously, Truth, are you going to sit there and try to say that punishment is not the biggest counseling tool used at HLA? Come on, dude. Anyone who ever went there or worked there knows that it is.

It is true that there is more to HLA's "program." There are LGAT "workshops" as well. These LGAT sessions are proven to be damaging to the developing mind and were discredited by research over twenty years ago. The ONLY places still using them are places like HLA and organized cults. They simply have NO PLACE in mental health treatment.

Behavior Mod, level system, LGAT workshops, confrontational "peer therapy" and a hefty dose of punishment. That's it in a nutshell. Call it what you like, but it doesn't change a thing.

Truth, I have no doubt but that you feel like what you all do there is good for kids. The problem is that you're the only ones who feel that way. Programs like yours have been thoroughly debunked. Your results suck.

You take kids that need help that you are not capable of delivering and exacerbate their problems. You take credit for "successes" that are actually the natural maturation process. You blame your huge amount of "failures" on the kids or their parents. You misrepresent the truth and outright lie to prospective marks. Your own staff tells the kids to "play the game" so they can go home. Who do you think you're kidding?

Son Of Serbia:

--- Quote ---On 2006-02-09 14:32:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Ur F.O.S. buddy. "Therapy" doesn't exist at HLA. There's only "Bait and Punish" and "Punish and Punish.""

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That seems to be the model for all of the Behavior Modification Scam Shacks. I wasn't at HLA personally, but I knew the founders Rudy & Jill Bentz from their days at Cedu RS. Neither of them are qualified to give therapy to anyone. The Bentz's are in fact two of the most twisted and sadistic people I've ever known. As Cedu staff, they both revelled in degrading students, and admonishing them with excessive and unfair punishments, especially Rudy.

I have it on good authority that Rudy considered himself a failure in just about every aspect of his life,cedu being the sole exception. Therefore, it's no wonder why Rudy got off on torturing kids so much (especially males). It was the perfect release for his neverending frustration. Jill on the other hand was adversely tough on girls. To Jill they were all "cum guzzling whores". She yelled at the boys some too, but for the most part. she was more interested in feeling us up (Jill grabbed my shit on numerous occassions.) I guess Rudy's libido failed to meet Jill's expectations (probably another thing he was pissed off about).

Anyways, I have no doubt that HLA is every bit as aweful and abusive as you all make it sound.

. [ This Message was edited by: Son Of Serbia on 2006-02-13 14:40 ]

SHH:
Rudy and Jill were fired about a year and a half or 2 years after HLA was opened. They havent been there in a very long time. Not very many people liked them while they were there.

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