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BuzzKill:
A lot of people begin by thinking "reform".
In time, as a person learns more about the history of the individuals, as well as the treatment mode, they tend to come around to wanting it all abolished.

Ask yourself why the strict prohibitions against having phone numbers and addresses? Why wouldn't they want you to keep in touch with your friends?
Doesn't that seem strange?

Of corse your lonely.  I know from my time on the BBS - the parents of grads often worried about how lonely they were. S/he's doing fine - but so lonely, was a very common concern.

It will get better. You'll become more comfortable with talking to the non-programmed - and you'll make new friends, or re-connect with old ones. Hang in there.

Antigen:
Welcome, Anon. Thanks for posting. Yeah, basically, I think TOUGHLOVE is a hategroup which should be rejected. I differ w/ most other ppl on the topic in that I don't think regulation is going to help. However, in the process of pushing for said regulation, advocates of it do a whole lot of what I think does need to be done, and that is robust dialog, research and education.

Another good question to ask yourself. If TOUGHLOVE is so good an wholesome and effective, why all the deception and obfuscation? Why is it so hard to nail them down on business ownership and ties, program history and all the rest? Doesn't that directly contradict their call for accountability?

They never give the parents the whole story, always springing something on them. That commitment letter you got? More than likely, your parents wrote it at the endo of their very first seminar because the facilitator instructed them to do so. They didn't mean it and, if they had any idea what the WWASP staff and fellow inmates were really putting you through, they probably never would have even said any of it.


There are two kinds of people; those who's lives have been somehow touched by harsh tragedy and those you don't know very well.
-- Ginger Warbis

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BuzzKill:
The commitment letters get written before the seminars. They want those written ASAP - Soon as the kid is enrolled.
The first one I wrote wasn't considered firm enough and I was asked to write another. Funny story about that. . .
I wrote an email (so as to expedite the receiving of said letter, as requested by the FR) but attached, was a letter to the FR, explaining he was coming out after a year, no matter what level he happened to be on - b/c that's all I was budgeted for - SO - don't be yanking his points for no good reason - lets try and let him graduate. After all, Teen Help had told me a kid with my son's history could expect to graduate in 6 to 12 months. (total bull shit) So anyway - the FR printed out the Commitment letter - and gave it to my son - with the note attached, explaining the financial realities!
I understand all the boys got a laugh out of that - and to this day, we wonder if the FR realized what he had done?
But anyway - the commitment letter is among the very first things they have you do - and the seminars may not roll around until several months later.
However - it is at the seminars that they have the parents write the glowing - "we love the program - it saved our family" letters.

CCM girl 1989:

--- Quote ---On 2006-01-30 14:26:00, BuzzKill wrote:

"The commitment letters get written before the seminars. They want those written ASAP - Soon as the kid is enrolled.

The first one I wrote wasn't considered firm enough and I was asked to write another. Funny story about that. . .

I wrote an email (so as to expedite the receiving of said letter, as requested by the FR) but attached, was a letter to the FR, explaining he was coming out after a year, no matter what level he happened to be on - b/c that's all I was budgeted for - SO - don't be yanking his points for no good reason - lets try and let him graduate. After all, Teen Help had told me a kid with my son's history could expect to graduate in 6 to 12 months. (total bull shit) So anyway - the FR printed out the Commitment letter - and gave it to my son - with the note attached, explaining the financial realities!

I understand all the boys got a laugh out of that - and to this day, we wonder if the FR realized what he had done?

But anyway - the commitment letter is among the very first things they have you do - and the seminars may not roll around until several months later.

However - it is at the seminars that they have the parents write the glowing - "we love the program - it saved our family" letters."

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I have a question that I think you might be able to answer for me.

At the seminars.......for instance the one in San Jose, CA. do the parents already have their kids enrolled without them really knowing, and the seminar is just a type of evaluation so they can recommend one of their great programs to send there poor kids to?

Or is the kid already in the program, and while on a homevisit they attend together? Kind of like the seminar is a requirment for them to graduate?

Please enlighten me, I am totally confused!!!!

Anonymous:
Parents are "invited" to attend the seminars after they enroll their child. The kid goes through a tougher version of the same seminars at the facility in which they are incarcerated. Seminars are the core of the program. You can't progress and move up the levels unless you complete them. It is in the seminars that people are changed from normal, thinking human beings to newspeak-spouting WWASPies.

The seminars are based on the LGAT model, and they are basically the same as EST, Landmark, etc.

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