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« on: January 23, 2006, 12:47:00 AM »
Has anyone on this forum actually filed a lawsuit against HLA( other than building contractors)..If so, why?  If not, why?
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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2006, 10:42:00 AM »
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"Has anyone on this forum actually filed a lawsuit against HLA( other than building contractors)..If so, why?  If not, why?"


Of course they haven't, because they do not have a case.
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2006, 10:50:00 AM »
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"Has anyone on this forum actually filed a lawsuit against HLA( other than building contractors)..If so, why?  If not, why?"




Of course they haven't, because they do not have a case.  "


I am aware of several that are in the beginning stages.  There are recent ex-employees who are going to testify on behalf of the abused.  You may not see a criminl idictment (although there is at least one criminal investigation ongoing), but you will see cases setlled for a lot of money.  It's coming.  Be patient.
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2006, 10:53:00 AM »
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"Has anyone on this forum actually filed a lawsuit against HLA( other than building contractors)..If so, why?  If not, why?"




Of course they haven't, because they do not have a case.  "


The Straight kids used to be told that all the time.  DJ is right, patience pays off.  Miller Newton has over $11.5 M in judgments or settlements against him.  Of course he filed bankruptcy but apparently couldn't get that right either.  His bankruptcy trustee has now filed fraud charges against him for hiding assets.
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2006, 10:58:00 AM »
Do you know that for sure?  It just seems weird
that everyone has all these dark tales, but
there have been no lawsuits...unless, there have
been out of court settlements...If finances were
a factor, there are 'decent' attorneys that would have taken their cases on contingency
basis...It doesn't make sense...
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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2006, 11:00:00 AM »
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"Has anyone on this forum actually filed a lawsuit against HLA( other than building contractors)..If so, why?  If not, why?"







Of course they haven't, because they do not have a case.  "




The Straight kids used to be told that all the time.  DJ is right, patience pays off.  Miller Newton has over $11.5 M in judgments or settlements against him.  Of course he filed bankruptcy but apparently couldn't get that right either.  His bankruptcy trustee has now filed fraud charges against him for hiding assets."


"What doesn't come out in the wash comes out in the rinse."

Remember, the parents that have gotten together to explore the lawsuits are no financial patsies.  The wealth and influence HLA uses to control individuals and their kids isn't going to hold up under the collective influence and assets of these wealthy, disgruntled, defrauded parents.

It may take a while but it's in the pipe.
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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2006, 11:06:00 AM »
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"Do you know that for sure?  It just seems weird

that everyone has all these dark tales, but

there have been no lawsuits...unless, there have

been out of court settlements...If finances were

a factor, there are 'decent' attorneys that would have taken their cases on contingency

basis...It doesn't make sense..."


Perhaps for a 'class action'. Rarely for an individual, particularly when it's the kid's word against the program. I've been through a lawsuit with another facility. It was a class action and drug on for five years. Some choose to act in other ways than taking legal action.
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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2006, 11:09:00 AM »
Is there any way for a parent to get back their deposit if they remove their kid early.  What if they can prove the child's needs aren't being met?
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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2006, 11:11:00 AM »
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a factor, there are 'decent' attorneys that would have taken their cases on contingency

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Not necessarily.  They won't take it unless they're reasonably sure they can win and recover their costs/fees.  These places have been insulated and protected for so long by so many powerful people (see Straight and the Bushes) that it can be extremely difficult to find an atty to take it on contingency....or take it at all for that matter.  Remember that these kids already have "strikes" against them.  They're DRUG ADDICTED KIDS for chrissake.  You can't believe ANYthing that comes out of their mouths. :roll:
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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2006, 11:13:00 AM »
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"Is there any way for a parent to get back their deposit if they remove their kid early.  What if they can prove the child's needs aren't being met?"


I've suggested breach of contract before.  Don't know how well that would play, seems reasonable though.
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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2006, 11:13:00 AM »
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"Is there any way for a parent to get back their deposit if they remove their kid early.  What if they can prove the child's needs aren't being met?"


Read your contract.  Money should not be a concern where your child's welfare is at stake.

Of course, ANY professional therapist who sees your kid would write an evaluation stating that HLA is incapable of helping your child and did not provide adequate mental health care.

Go get your kid and sue them for your refund if need be.  Kid comes first, money comes second.
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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2006, 11:23:00 AM »
I wonder if someone could make a case for medical neglect or deprivation.
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« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2006, 11:48:00 AM »
Wow, you really are worried, aren't you?  :eek:

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« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2006, 12:03:00 PM »
Only through an attorney....and not in LUmpkin
County... And, then,good luck..but, it is not
impossible....
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« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2006, 12:08:00 PM »
ISACCORP recommended seeing a therapist first,
after removing your child, only to be sure
the child is not traumatized beyond limits...not for
evaluating that HLA did not help them...
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