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Offline joe dirt

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« on: January 22, 2006, 10:40:00 AM »
Where are students from, and how are they referred to HLA?

Our students are from all across the country and even from outside the USA, South America, Canada, Grand Cayman, etc. Most are referred by educational consultants, although in some cases a child's parents have done their own research and decided that HLA fits their child's needs. Our students are not court-ordered to HLA and do not include violent or severely disturbed children.

-from the hla website
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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2006, 10:53:00 AM »
No,in fact it's a blatant lie.  HLA does accept court-ordered kids.  Their staff have come on this site and admitted as much.  One says she mailed out progress reports to probation officers and another said outright they do take mandated kids.
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2006, 11:20:00 AM »
Unless things have dramatically changed yes it is very much a lie.

They not only accept court ordered kids but the majority of those kids are sent there for violent offenses.

Now the HLA puppets will tell you they dont really accept court ordered kids, because the kid has a choice between jail or HLA.

But common sense will tell you they are playing with semantics and they do in fact take court ordered kids. In fact they encourage it because it is that much harder for a court ordered kid to get pulled.

In fact in my experience they not only accept them, but they will often try and get non court ordered kids court ordered once they arrive.
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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2006, 11:41:00 AM »
From the thread "Court Ordered..HLA"
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =20#156114

It is not actually a lie. What a judge will often do is suspend a childs sentence until they complete the program. If the family does not want to take this alternative, the child will then be ordered to a locked facility. Judges often like to give this option for kids who have committed a minor crime but obviously do not belong in a locked facility. That is why they offer HLA as an OPTION, not an order.

Kids will come in saying, and possibly truly thinking, that they are court ordered, when technically that is not the case.
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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2006, 11:51:00 AM »
Exactly.

Its just playing with semantics, nothing more.

In fact I doubt even the judges who send the kids there would call it anything other than court ordered.
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« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2006, 01:53:00 PM »
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On 2006-01-22 07:40:00, joe dirt wrote:

"Where are students from, and how are they referred to HLA?



Our students are from all across the country and even from outside the USA, South America, Canada, Grand Cayman, etc. Most are referred by educational consultants, although in some cases a child's parents have done their own research and decided that HLA fits their child's needs. Our students are not court-ordered to HLA and do not include violent or severely disturbed children.



-from the hla website"


When I worked there, they certainly did accept court-ordered kids.  Some of those kids were severly disturbed and violent.

Recent attendees have stated that there are, in fact, many court ordered kids there right now.  Some allegedly are multiple violent felons, some ivolved with very serious gang violence.

I wouldn't put too much stock in what they put on their website, either.  This place is well-known to be a fountain of misinformation.  Many of their staff come into this forum and make outright, demonstrably false statements, but then they won't answer any of the questions people ask for clarification - they just disappear.  

Their marketing director is a frequent poster here, they have teachers post, and some others claiming not to be affiliated with the school, posing as satisfied customers, but who are later revealed to be counseling staff.  Most of the time, they post anonymously for sole purpose of eroding the credibility of their detractors by making up outrageous lies about them, bashing them relentlessly while steadfastly avoiding serious questions about their program.

If you want to get completely scammed out of a ton of cash, by all means, sign your kid up for this $7000.00 per month unlicensed treatment center.
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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2006, 05:18:00 PM »
I keep seeing the number $7000 a month thrown around.  Where is everyone getting that ammount?
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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2006, 05:22:00 PM »
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On 2006-01-22 14:18:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I keep seeing the number $7000 a month thrown around.  Where is everyone getting that ammount?"
Obviously out of thier asses! That's not the correct amount.
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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2006, 10:03:00 PM »
Oh its not?

It must be higher by now.

7000.00 a month tuition was the going rate up until a few months ago but Buch has to adjust for all the great things he gives kids like water fountains and such so God only knows how high it is now.
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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2006, 10:44:00 PM »
6700.00 a month dipshit.
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2006, 10:47:00 PM »
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On 2006-01-22 19:44:00, Anonymous wrote:

"6700.00 a month dipshit."


So then the original estimate of $7000/mo. was pretty accurate.  $7000/mo. to run your kid's mind through a blender.  Lovely.
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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2006, 10:49:00 PM »
No, accurate would be $7000.00 you fucking retard.
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2006, 11:08:00 PM »
Its not 20 dollars its 19.95.

idiot.

 :lol:

Care to address how insanely unreasonable and high that price is?
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2006, 11:44:00 PM »
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On 2006-01-22 19:03:00, RobertBruce wrote:

"Oh its not?



It must be higher by now.



7000.00 a month tuition was the going rate up until a few months ago but Buch has to adjust for all the great things he gives kids like water fountains and such so God only knows how high it is now. "


You have no clue of what you are talking about.  Tuition is currently 5300 per month, though I believe it will soon be going up to 5700.  You are 1700 off.  You say that doesn't matter, but if someone from HLA were on here saying it were 1700 LESS than the actual tuition you would be having a fit.
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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2006, 11:47:00 PM »
And BTW...  Hidden Lake gave families over 250,000 dollars in scholarships last year.  10% of the families go there for free.
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