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More love mail from Dewey, Cheatham and Howe

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Antigen:
Here's the thing, though. Just look around these and other industry forums. There's a funny thread in WWASP (I think) called 'Struggling turkeys'. These self deluded pricks aren't just pretending we're all persecuting them, they believe it!

Same ol'e, same ol'e going all the way back to Chuck Dederich and as broad and shallow as the entire industry. "We're saving catastrophically fucked up kids here! How dare you question our methods??!!!!" (or, for that matter, question whether any particular kid is actually disordered to begin with)

These imaginary child monsters (a busload of Baby Faced Nelsons, as Charles Long once said on camera) can be insulted, degraded, silenced, physically punished and deprived of any semblance of civil rights. But you just go and ask a question these self appointed gurus don't like to talk about, and they're literally calling out the FBI.

Forgiveness is divine. Forgetfulness is just a mental dysfunction.
--Antigen
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Anonymous:

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That being said, there has to be some measure of accountability, reason and sanity when dealing with young, fragile, developing minds. It would go a long way in my book if HLA just quit being so defensive and entrenched in denial about the real, palpable problems with their "program" (which doesn't work) and staff (that don't help) and put some of those remarkable profits into getting these kids some real help for their real problems.


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Bingo.

Troll Control:

--- Quote ---On 2006-01-17 09:16:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Until you know who placed these calls, do not assume they are coming from any sort of directive by the school itself. Whoever it is, I do hope they are found out, however, I doubt seriously this was an act that the school directed an employee to do. Their way seems to be more along the lines of legal action, not harassing phone calls. I do have a question, however, is your phone unlisted? You may consider having this done, as it is a little harder to find on the internet if it is unlisted. "

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Well, I'm not making any conclusions as to who it may be.  What's troubling though is that only people with whom I worked would know my personal information.  

Whether one of them did it, I don't know, but the person who called me got my particulars from somewhere.  I just can't think of any other "somewhere" that the information could have been gotten other than from people who know me from HLA.

I will know soon enough I suppose.

WWFSMD:

--- Quote ---On 2006-01-17 09:17:00, Antigen wrote:

"Here's the thing, though. Just look around these and other industry forums. There's a funny thread in WWASP (I think) called 'Struggling turkeys'. These self deluded pricks aren't just pretending we're all persecuting them, they believe it!



Same ol'e, same ol'e going all the way back to Chuck Dederich and as broad and shallow as the entire industry. "We're saving catastrophically fucked up kids here! How dare you question our methods??!!!!" (or, for that matter, question whether any particular kid is actually disordered to begin with)



These imaginary child monsters (a busload of Baby Faced Nelsons, as Charles Long once said on camera) can be insulted, degraded, silenced, physically punished and deprived of any semblance of civil rights. But you just go and ask a question these self appointed gurus don't like to talk about, and they're literally calling out the FBI.


Forgiveness is divine. Forgetfulness is just a mental dysfunction.
--Antigen
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How true.  Same thing with Mel and Betty Sembler and the DFAF.  Just go ahead and try and talk to them about any of the abuse, policy making etc. and they'll attempt to shut you right down.  Paranoid freaks that they are.  A couple of people tried to view their non-profit papers (forget what they're called but all non-profits are REQUIRED to show them to anyone upon request), actually went to their offices.  They closed the door in their faces and called the cops.
The more BORING a child is, the more the parents,
when showing off the child, receive adulation for
being GOOD PARENTS -- because they have a TAME
CHILD-CREATURE in their house.
--Frank Zappa
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Antigen:

--- Quote ---On 2006-01-17 09:16:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Until you know who placed these calls, do not assume they are coming from any sort of directive by the school itself.

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Is that a confession?  :rofl:

No, of course this sort of thing is hardly ever a corporate decision handed down through the organization. Neither is excercizing a kid till they puke or pass out or driving a kid to suicide or any of a dozen other very tragic occurances so common in this industry.

It's more a result of group-think and an unfounded belief in an imaginary cause so high and holy as to justify just about damned near anything.

Why do you keep harassing RB about his name and location? I gather from his posts that he's a young dude, trying to make it in life. Do you understand that you're not just pissing him off, but might actually be frightening him? Do you care? Do you get that, bad as some kids may act sometimes, it's the adults in this industry--those holding all the cash, all the power and all the cards who are the dangerous thugs in this story?

Nah, if you let that seep in you'd have to see yourself for what you are. And that might drive you to suicide or something. Never mind, please go back to sleep now.


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