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Anonymous:
I saw kids wearing signs that said things like "dope fiend" and "liar". Kids forced to sit on the chair, outside , in the dead of winter. Kids deprived of sleep and adequate nutrition during Marathon groups. Kids with shaved heads. Kids forced to stay awake all night and scrub the kitchen floor with a toothbrush, after staff dumped huge quantities of food coloring, flour, oil, etc. on the floor. Kids detoxing from heroin cold turkey, without adequate medical supervision-- sweating, hallucinating, shitting and wetting their pants, rather than being admitted to an appropriate detox facility. Kids with history of abuse and trauma being screamed at, belittled, and ridiculed by abusive, agressive, overzealous, and undereducated staff. Kids with sexual identity issues being called "faggot" by staff. I never saw the toliet seat thing. But since I witnessed this other crap, I would believe it to be yet another example of Daytop misconduct.
Troll Control:
Wow. It's a Daytop day on fornits.
When I posted that link I didn't look closely. I assumed it was Daytop Village, as I have never heard of another Daytop operating in CT. In any case, I should have looked more closely and vetted the source. That's my fault. My intention wasn't to mislead anyone about the facts.
I stand by my statement that they were using the toilet seats, etc on LE's during '95 and '96. I saw it, thought it was stupid, expressed my concerns to my bosses and was told basically not to bother because this is how things are done at Daytop.
The poster who worked there in 1997-1998 said it pretty well. I too saw CPS investigations go nowhere and occasionally the staff who complained were transferred or fired. I also agree that making a report of "emotional abuse," as Odie says he would have done, is a fruitless endeavor. Especially in light of the fact that Daytop is an emotional abuse machine, everyone knows it and they still get away with it even after hundreds of filed reports.
The fact remains that this type of thing was happening, that Odie is either unaware that it was or is not telling the truth about it, and that Odie first said it never happened then said it did and it was my fault for not "reporting it." Again, Odie, you just can't have it both ways.
And, yes, I do still think you're a mental defective and just a little bit obsessed with "getting" me. Keep at it, son.
As far as you "proving" that I'm "full of crap," well, it seems a few others have seen what I've seen. You know someone's "full of crap" when they insist they know the goings-on of a place they never worked at or visited, even going as far as to call everyone who HAS worked there or was a resident there a "liar." That full of crap individual is you, Odie. Way to go. Good job of completely denying reality just to take a pot-shot at me.
Troll Control:
--- Quote ---On 2006-01-25 08:57:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I saw kids wearing signs that said things like "dope fiend" and "liar".
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--- Quote ---Kids with shaved heads.
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--- Quote ---Kids with history of abuse and trauma being screamed at, belittled, and ridiculed by abusive, agressive, overzealous, and undereducated staff.
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--- Quote --- Kids with sexual identity issues being called "faggot" by staff.
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This is what Odie has to say about it:
--- Quote ---When I was there in the 90's it was totally different from the early days of the signs, shaved heads...
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Apparently NOT, Odie. You are one full-of-shit dude. Are you saying this poster is a liar, too?
You say, "no signs" "no shaved heads." Well, that's a blatant lie, Odie. What is your interest in portraying this place to be something that it CLEARLY is not?
odie:
Geez.....Look at all those anonymous posts within minutes of each other. Coincidence? I think not. But at least you finally admitted you were wrong on something DJ.I too saw that thing about the place in Connecticut some time ago and thought it strange that they used the Daytop name but they aren't connected. I do find some of those posts intriguing though, especially the one where CPS investigations fond none of the allegations to be true. Now nobody is that good of covering up rampant abuse no matter how well connected they are. I'd think that there must have been at least one of the so called educated staff that would have come forward during the investigations and said what they saw, unless of course they saw nothing. Oh and I'll ask a simple question this time. What search engine did you use for that toilet seat thing? I used google and yahoo and the only thing I found were posts in this forum
One of the greatest delusions in the world is the hope that the evils in this world are to be cured by legislation.
--Thomas Brackett Reed
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I was surprised as well to see responses. This thread is usually pretty slow. I think people just get pissed off when they see someone saying their experience is invalid. Some people read and never post, but when they see something they don't like, they pop in to post.
I am curious as to who the other staffer is from '97- '98. I'd like to see who was still around from when I was there.
I do occasionally admit wrongdoing. That was just me not checking deeper than the front page, but I sure didn't try to deceive anyone. Just a little to quick to the "say it" button without looking a little better.
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