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heres two more for the wwasps list: Respect Camp & Woodland

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Anonymous:

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"I'd badmouth WWASPS if I thought it would get parents to go with a program I recommended so I could make a living  :wink: "

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Of course you would, you sceeming, slimy bastard.

Even though this might be hard for you to believe, we are not all money grubbing child abusers such as yourself.

Some of us are here for NON FINANCIAL reasons. Such as... torture, abuse, murder, suicide, rape. All things one might experience in a WWASP program.

We don't like that WWAASP tortures teens.

We don't like that you people make so much money off our suffering.

We don't like your wharehousing of teens scam.

We don't like people who make their living off lying to parents.

We don't like YOU.

It's obvious your type would do ANYTHING for money, so your quote is no big surprise. Some of us know the truth and wonder how you people sleep at night.

Anonymous:
WWASP pays the parents of their prisoners with either a free month, or the cash equivilent.

Brainwashed parents will do anything to keep their kid from leaving early... since the program convinced them they'd end up 'deadorinjail' if they didn't. Parents go out and recruit all their friends' kids into the program.

Ask teens if they saw a friend or two show up after they were there for a while. Of course, they never got contact, but you can see them across the facility.

It sucks to know your parents are convincing their friends to send their kids there... that shit disgusts me.

If their family actually needed help, they would seek it out... this is how the tenticles of WWASP spread, through fear and deception.

They DONT NEED education consultants. They plastered the web with their websites pretending they are referall agents. You make this sound like a good thing but they reason they do it is GREED. They don't want to share the pie.

You think it's ethical to offer parents of a prisoner thousands of dollars to get another kid into the program.... the rest of the world doesn't, you sicken us with your actions.

At least educational consultants are accountable for the referals they make. Parents are not, they just cash in and don't worry about the consequences.

How many kids who are now homeless, on drugs and psychologically FUCKED from all your torture, came in as a referal?

All parents who make referals have blood on their hands... you greedy bastards.

May you all rot in hell.


WWASP is a cult.. straight up.

Antigen:

--- Quote ---On 2005-12-23 08:45:00, Anonymous wrote:

Answer - No - WWASPS never pays outside referral agencies - that's the biggest reason that so many outside referral agencies badmouth WWASPS -
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That is absolutely false. And you either know it or work pretty hard at maintaining your ignorance.

Here's the court transcript from WWASPS v PURE
http://fornits.com/anonanon/docs/PURE/wwaspsvpure.pdf

It's a huge file, almost 6 meg. But worth having for anyone interested in either WWASPS or PURE or the industry in general. In it, you'll find that Sue Scheff answers questions about her time working as a WWASP/WWASPS edcon, how the referral fees are structured and even a nifty trick to double your money if you can get one of the intake people to work with you.
The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble by us, and I for one must be content to remain an agnostic.
--Charles Robert Darwin, English naturalist
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Anonymous:
this was Bethel Boys Academy. We all know the history of Bethel...

BuzzKill:
Was it Bethel?

Well that makes sense. They just did another name change - to escape the aura of trouble the riots gave Eagle Point. Typical.

And Yes indeed, wwasp pays for referrals. No question about it. They give advice to the parents on how to market the programs - where to leave the flyers and so on. I also once got an email from Jane explaining that they (teen-help/wwasps)would help the parents to developed their own web sites to market the programs.

This is really very clever on their part. What they pay the parents is a tiny fraction of what a new placement brings in, so it pays huge dividends that way; but I think what might be even more important, is how it tends to solidify the parental support/blindness. Once a person has been instrumental in placing others in some such program, it is much harder to accept the idea (no matter how much evidence is produced) that it is a less than "wonderful" program. The idea it could be abusive becomes unthinkable. That's my opinion, anyway, on how the "referral" psychology works.

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