You said ?Man, call that shithole cedu what you want, but a cult? Cedu was not a damn cult. Synanon was a cult. Cedu was a damn boarding school. Sure they made you stay up late, eat shitty sandwiches, and yell at the floor 9 (or 8, depending on when you were there) times during your stay. I hardly think that qualifies as a cult.?
Yeah, pretty hard to believe and my jaw dropped finding that out, but let me enlighten you:
First of all CEDU doesn?t stand for ?See yourself as you are and do something about it? that?s Cedu?s propaganda and advertising pitch to lure parents into believing that that will help their children. CEDU actually stands for Charles E. Dederich University, the founder of Synanon
http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia. ... nanon.html for more information. Which became a spin-off of Straight, Inc. >> Mel Sembler
http://thestraights.com/index.htm and Mel Wasserman was a part of that who founded CEDU.
Here are some warning Signs of a cult:
http://www.factnet.org/headlines/destru ... signs.htmlAsk yourself if the following criteria apply to the group you are concerned about.
1.A destructive cult tends to be totalitarian in its control of its members' behavior. Cults are likely to dictate in great detail not only what members believe, but also what members wear and eat, when and where members work, sleep, and bathe, and how members think, speak, and conduct familial, marital, or sexual relationships.
DOES THIS RING A BELL: DRESS CODES, WORK DETAILS, SLEEP DEPERVATION IN PROFEETS, ?THINKING?, I?M ON A BAN, SEX AGREEMENTS.
2.A destructive cult tends to have an ethical double standard. Members are urged to be obedient to the cult, to carefully follow cult rules. They are also encouraged to be revealing and open in the group, confessing all to the leaders. On the other hand, outside the group they are encouraged to act unethically, manipulating outsiders or nonmembers, and either deceiving them or simply revealing very little about themselves or the group. In contrast to destructive cults, honorable groups teach members to abide by one set of ethics and act ethically and truthfully to all people in all situations.
DOES THIS RING A BELL: REVEALING AND CONFESSING IN RAPS/PROPHEETS, MANIPULATING PARENTS TO KEEP US THERE AND TELLING THEM OUR CONFESSIONS TRUE OR MADE UP TO KEEP WITH THE PROGRAM.
3.A destructive cult has only two basic purposes: recruiting new members and fund-raising. Altruistic movements, established religions, and other honorable groups also recruit and raise funds. However, these actions are incidental to an honorable group's main purpose of improving the lives of its members and of humankind in general. Destructive cults may claim to make social contributions, but in actuality such claims are superficial and only serve as gestures or fronts for recruiting and fund-raising. A cult's real goal is to increase the prestige and often the wealth of the leader.
DOES THIS RING A BELL: STAFF MEMBERS GOT BONUS? TO REFER STUDENTS TO OTHER SCHOOL FUNCTIONS IE PROVO. HELLO BILLION DOLLAR BUSINESS.
4.A destructive cult appears to be innovative and exclusive. The leader claims to be breaking with tradition, offering something novel, and instituting the ONLY viable system for change that will solve life's problems or the world's ills. But these claims are empty and only used to recruit members who are then surreptitiously subjected to mind control to inhibit their ability to examine the actual validity of the claims of the leader and the cult.
DOES THIS RING A BELL: YEAH THE WHOLE PROGRAM, DID IT ACTUALLY HELP OR HINDER ANY OF YOU? FEEL BRAINWASHED ANYONE? WHAT DID IT ALL MEAN?
5.A destructive cult is authoritarian in its power structure. The leader is regarded as the supreme authority. He or she may delegate certain power to a few subordinates for the purpose of seeing that members adhere to the leader's wishes. There is no appeal outside his or her system to a greater system of justice. For example, if a schoolteacher feels unjustly treated by a principal, an appeal can be made to the superintendent. In a destructive cult, the leader claims to have the only and final ruling on all matters.
DOES THIS RING A BELL: BIG SISTERS/BROTHERS UPPER HOUSE PUPILS?.OH AND DIDN?T THE FORMER TEACHER AND FORMER THERAPIST TRY TO TELL PEOPLE ABOUT IT AND NOTHING WAS DONE?
6.A destructive cult's leader is a self-appointed messianic person claiming to have a special mission in life. For example, leaders of flying saucer cults claim that beings from outer space have commissioned them to lead people away from Earth, so that only the leaders can save them from impending doom.
DOES THIS RING A BELL: PROFEETS, WITHOUT CEDU YOU WOULD BE ON THE STREET WHORING AROUND AND BEING ADDICTED TO CRACK, ETC.
7.A destructive cult's leader centers the veneration of members upon himself or herself. Priests, rabbis, ministers, democratic leaders, and other leaders of genuinely altruistic movements focus the veneration of adherents on God or a set of ethical principles. Cult leaders, in contrast, keep the focus of love, devotion, and allegiance on themselves.
DOES THIS RING A BELL: GET WITH THE PROGRAM! USE YOUR TOOLS. BTW, DID ANYONE GO TO CHURCH WHILE AT CEDU?
8.A destructive cult's leader tends to be determined, domineering, and charismatic. Such a leader effectively persuades followers to abandon or alter their families, friends, and careers to follow the cult. The leader then takes control over followers' possessions, money, time, and lives.
DOES THIS RING A BELL: RESTICTIONS, I?M ON A BAN, LACK OF FAMILY IMPUT, WAITING MONTHS TO WRITE A LETTER OR MAKE A PHONE CALL AND HAVE IT CENSORED. YEAH I THINK THEY TOOK COMPLETE CONTROL OF OUR LIVES AND MINDS.
BUT WAIT THERE?S MORE:
http://www.isaccorp.org/warningsigns.html? The facility is not licensed. YEAH SO MANY QUALIFIED STAFF MEMBERS THERE AND WASN?T ACCREDITED UNTIL THE NINETIES.
? Verbal and/or written communication between the child and his parents, siblings, grandparents, etc. is prohibited, restricted, or monitored on any level. YEAH HELLO?
? The facility requires that the parents and/or child sign a form releasing the program of liability in the event of injury to the child. AGAIN WE WERE IN THEIR CARE.
? The program requests/demands/recommends that they have legal custody of children. THAT DIDN?T HAPPEN THAT I KNOW OF.
? The program requires that children live in foster or "host" homes instead of allowing them to reside with their parents. LIVE IN PROGRAM, DORMS
? The child or parent or forbidden from discussing the daily happenings at the facility. Often this policy is called "confidentiality." HELLO?
? The child is denied access to a telephone. VERY VERY LIMITED ACCESS!
? Phone calls between children and parents are monitored. YEAH HELLO!
? The program uses confrontational therapy. LETS RAP SHALL WE!
? Parents must fulfill requirements of the facility before being permitted to visit their own children. UM YEAH DID PARENTS EVER SHOW UP NO, IT WAS ALL PLANNED.
? The facility is located outside the jurisdiction of the United States. FAR AWAY FOR MOST PARENTS.
? Children are restrained or otherwise physically prevented from leaving the facility. WELL SOME OF THAT DIDN?T STOP US BUT WE ENDED UP BACK THERE, FULL TIMES.
? The staff includes former students/clients of the facility. YEAH I REMEMBER A FEW.
? Staff members claim that self-injury or cutting/carving on ones body is normal behavior for a child in treatment. WELL THAT DIDN?T HAPPEN.
? Parents are not allowed to remain with their child during the entire intake/entry process. THAT DID HAPPEN. REMEMBER STRIP SEARCHES?
? The program inflicts physical punishments on children such as exercising for extended periods of time, bizarre cleaning rituals (ie scrubbing floors with a toothbrush) or food restrictions. WORK DETAILS , DISHES, CAN?T TALK, SING AND HAVE TO DO IT ACCERATED LIKE RUNNING THE TRASH TO THE DUMPSTER.
? The program uses humiliation to "break them down." OHHHHH THE BIGGEST ONE OF ALL!!!!! RAPS CAUSE SERIOUS DAMAGE TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.
? The program forces children to remain in solitary confinement/isolation/time-out for an unspecified amount of time. FULL TIMES, WORK DETAILS
? The facility considers homosexuality to be a behavioral problem. OH COP-OUTS
? The facility claims to be able to "treat" homosexuality. UM OKAY.
? Reading materials are prohibited or severely limited. 2-3 DAY CLASSES FOR LIKE 4 HOURS EACH OF THOSE DAYS? WOW WE LEARNED GOOD!
? The facility does not have a clearly visible sign outside the building or descriptions of their location are vague. IT WAS THERE BUT ABOUT THREE MILES DOWN THE ROAD FROM THE MAIN ENTRANCE.
? The facility claims to modify behavior, yet has no licensed therapists on staff. OHHHH ANOTHER BIG ONE!
? A licensed doctor or registered nurse is not present at any time during normal operating hours. NOT SURE ABOUT THIS ONE BUT I DON?T THINK SO.
? Current clients/students participate in the intake/entry process. BIG BROTHER/SISTER
? Staff members offer to help parents obtain a court order forcing the child into, or keeping the child in, the facility. WELL SOME WHERE SENT THERE BY THE COURTS
? Children are observed while bathing, dressing, or using the toilet on any level of the program. WE WERE ALWAYS OBSERVED AT MOST POINTS BUT THIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN A LITTLE EXTREME.
? The facility claims to treat drug abuse, but does not conduct a drug screen prior to entry. YEAH HELLO HOW MANY WERE SENT THERE BECAUSE OF THIS? HELP SOME BECAUSE THERE WERE NO DRUGS THERE BUT DIDN?T TREAT IT.
? The facility does not allow children to follow their religion of choice. DID ANYONE GO TO CHURCH?
? Staff members must "approve" family members, siblings, friends, or employment. UM IT TOOK ME AT LEAST A YEAR TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO MY SISTER AND GRANDMA.
? Children are not afforded an education in accordance with state requirements. HELLO HOW DEMEANING WAS THIS 2-3 DAYS 4 HOURS, IF WE WERE LUCKY. OR ON A WORK DETAIL OR FULL TIME.
? Medication is recommended, prescribed, approved, or dispensed by anyone other than a medical doctor (MD). NOT SURE ABOUT THIS ONE.
? Children are denied medications that have been prescribed by an MD. NOT SURE ABOUT THIS ONE EITHER.
? Staff members, admissions personnel, referrers, etc. make statements indicating that "your child will die without" the program. UM OKAY WE WILL LIVE ON THE STREETS WITH HEROIN INJECTED CONSTANTLY AND BE CRACK WHORES.
? Children escort/supervise other children. FULL TIME WORK DETAILS BIG BROTHER/SISTER.
? Children have to "earn" the "right" to speak during group/therapy sessions. I?M ON A BAN?
? Children are denied outside activities on any level/phase. DID WE EVER GO ANYWHERE? EXCEPT THE WILDERNESS PROGRAMS?
? Staff members must approve the withdrawal of children from the facility. YEAH UNLESS YOUR YANKED BECAUSE INSURANCE WON?T PAY FOR IT OTHERWISE YOUR PARENTS ARE BRAINWASHED INTO MAKING YOU STAY, ?FOR YOUR OWN GOOD?!
? The facility expects total and unquestioned support of parents. YEAH AND THEY EVEN GAVE THEM BABY PROFEETS SO THEY COULD GET WITH THE PROGRAM.
? Children on any level/phase are forbidden to speak to other children in the facility. WELL THAT DEPENDS ON WHO YOU WERE ON A BAN FROM.
The following is a list of common characteristics of cults.
If you know of any juvenile facility that fits these descriptions, please contact us immediately.
1.Limitation of communication with those outside the group. Books, magazines, letters and visits with friends and family are discouraged or even banned. DID WE HAVE A TV TO HEAR THE NEWS? DID WE EVEN KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE OUTSIDE WORLD? YEAH SELECTED BOOKS, I DON?T REMEMBER ANY MAGAZINES AND LETTERS FROM MY GRANDMA WERE WITHHELD FROM ME FOR AT LEAST A YEAR. NO FRIENDS FROM THE OUTSIDE WERE ALLOWED AND FAMILY WAS ALSO LIMITED.
2.New members become convinced of the higher purpose and special calling of the group through a profound encounter, i.e. an alleged miracle or the prophetic word of the group. ONCE YOU GOT WITH THE PROGRAM. AND THE MIRACLE OF THE PROFEETS AND THE TRUTH ABOUT OURSELVES.
3.An explicit goal of the group is to bring about some kind of change, be it global, social or personal. UM YEAH SEE YOURSELF AS YOU ARE AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
4.Use of the practice of self-disclosure to members in the group. In the context of a gathering of the group, converts are encouraged to admit past sins and imperfections, and doubts about the group. LETS RAP AGAIN SHALL WE BECAUSE 3 DAYS A WEEK FOR 4 HOURS WASN?T ENOUGH. WOW THAT IS ALMOST MORE TIME THAN CLASSES. ISN?T IT SUPPOSE TO BE A SCHOOL WHERE YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO LEARN THINGS.
5.The group's perspective is absolutely true and completely adequate to explain everything. The doctrine is not subject to amendments or question. Absolute conformity is required. KAHLIL GIBRAN AND THE PROPHEET, OH AND GET WITH THE PROGRAM!
6.A new vocabulary emerges within the context of the group. Group members "think" within the very abstract and narrow parameters of the group's doctrine. Loaded terms and cliches prejudice thinking. OH HELLO WHOLE PROGRAM! COP-OUT, BANS, DISHES HAD A WHOLE NEW MEANING, LETS RAP, INDIGHTMENTS, AGREEMENTS (OH HOW WE LIKED TO AGREE TO THOSE) SIT WITH THAT?.AND MUCH MUCH MORE!
7.Pre-group experience and group experience are narrowly interpreted through the absolute doctrine. YEAH I HAD SEX ONCE BUT WAS I A WHORE?
8.Salvation is possible only in the group. Those who leave the group are doomed. HOW MANY TIMES DID WE HEAR THAT ONE!
HOPE THAT ENLIGHTENS YOU, I WAS SHOCKED TO FIND THIS OUT AFTER 15+ YEARS OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED THERE. NOW I KNOW, WE WERE ALL BRAINWASHED INTO THINKING IT WAS A GREAT PLACE. MOST OF US HAVE IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE THAT EFFECTS US IN OUR DAILY LIVES. AND IF YOU THINK YOU DON?T HAVE PROBLEMS BECAUSE OF CEDU YOU MUST BE WITH THE PROGRAM AND THE PRO-CEDU-RE. HOPE THAT?S WORKING FOR YOU!
