Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS)
Anyone grateful for the time at Spring Creek Lodge?
Anonymous:
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On 2005-12-20 11:15:00, Anonymous wrote:
Approach him with another what?"
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Program. Can you believe it??"
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If it was a program they were there with him also. I think that would show him they care to help him and themselves and are willing to give up there time and life to be a part of his life. All parent make mistakes and so do kids. wouldnt this kind of put them on the same level instead of him feeling like everyone is only coming down on him?
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-12-20 11:19:00, Anonymous wrote:
"You said he had two older brothers that moved out, any younger siblings? I hope, if there is, the parents realize that the younger kids see what is happening and it will affect them, too."
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No younger kids thank god
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-12-20 11:22:00, Anonymous wrote:
If it was a program they were there with him also. I think that would show him they care to help him and themselves and are willing to give up there time and life to be a part of his life. All parent make mistakes and so do kids. wouldnt this kind of put them on the same level instead of him feeling like everyone is only coming down on him?"
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Yeah, well theoretically that's what the programs would have you think. When you delve a little deeper into how they really work and how the 'change' the kids damn druggie ways you realize how completely controlling and sadistic it is. The kid is put under a microscope and any mistakes he makes are reacted to vehemently. The reactions of pro-program parents is what is more damaging, not the actual act of rebellion that the kid is engaging in (no, I'm not saying that rebellion doesn't have its dangers too, just not nearly as deep and lasting as the reactions to that rebellion).
Anonymous:
National Mental Health Association report on bootcamps.
http://www.nmha.org/children/justjuv/bootcamp.cfm
Are boot camps effective?
Boot camps do not reduce recidivism. Numerous studies of adult and juvenile boot camps have shown that graduates do no better in terms of recidivism than offenders who were incarcerated or, in some cases, than those sentenced to regular probation supervision. In fact, some researchers have found that boot camp graduates are more likely to be re-arrested or are re-arrested more quickly than other offenders.
Boot camps may not be cost effective. Although some boot camps enable jurisdictions to save money because youth serve shorter sentences, others have found that the extra costs of operating boot camps outweigh the benefits. For example, boot camps tend to be more labor intensive and more expensive to operate. If youth are sentenced to a boot camp when they could have been placed in probation or a community-based program, jurisdictions are actually losing money.
Experts agree that a confrontational approach is not appropriate. Most correctional and military experts agree that a confrontational model, employing tactics of intimidation and humiliation, is counterproductive for most youth in the juvenile justice system. The use of this kind of model has led to disturbing incidents of abuse. For youth of color (who represent the vast majority of the juveniles sentenced to boot camps)-as well as for youth with emotional, behavioral, or learning problems-degrading tactics may be particularly inappropriate and potentially damaging. The bullying style and aggressive interactions that characterize the boot camp environment fail to model the pro-social behavior and development of empathy that these youth really need to learn.
Positive changes demonstrated while in the program may not last when a youth returns to his community. Many adult and juvenile offenders sentenced to boot camps report that the program is helpful to them and they feel more positive about their futures. It is unclear, however, whether these attitudinal changes persist after youth leave the boot camp, or whether they are related to actual changes in behavior once a youth returns to his community. Without significant therapeutic intervention while in the program, as well as specialized aftercare following release, boot camp programs have been consistently unsuccessful in "rehabilitating" juvenile or adult offenders.
Boot camps are not a "quick fix." Most boot camps have high drop-out rates (as many as half fail to graduate in some programs), and staff in at least one juvenile program have expressed concern that too many youth lack the maturity and self-control to succeed in a military-style program. After leaving boot camp, youth are not prepared for productive lives in their communities. The Office of Justice Programs of the U.S. Department of Justice has suggested that, for boot camps to be effective, they must incorporate a full range of rehabilitative services and programs, including education, substance abuse treatment, individualized case management, and mental health care. Clearly, the idea of "shock incarceration" as a tough, low-cost alternative to more intensive juvenile justice programming has not been borne out by our 15 years of experience with boot camps across the country.
Anonymous:
this is the most fucked up thread ive seen...
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