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Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2006-02-24 12:45:00, OKB4RMA wrote:

"1. Show me the list of Successful Hyde graduates...something a little more than the Guy who is a comedian living in Hollywood (I'd sure love to go film his living situation and show you what "supposed success is like here in Hollywood :lol: )or the other kid with his letter of intent to play DivII Soccer.

2. Show me a ratio of Hyde students that enroll to Hyde Students that graduate and go on to College...show me a list of those colleges also. Any TRUE prep school would be MORE THAN HAPPY to divulge that information...unless they actually are more of a treatment program than a school and hide behind the veil of "client/patient confidentiality)

3. List the resources that are available to the students at Hyde. You know...the ones that cost money. What is the science lab like? Is there a planetarium? How many tennis courts? Soccer Fields? etc. etc. etc.

4. Tell me the cost of Hyde's program. Tell me about the additional costs that a parent may incur while their child is attending.

5. Describe...in detail...the weekly menu that a Hyde child eats.

6. Tell me the amount of physical labor that the children at Hyde have to do (if any)...and if they do...who benefits from their free labor? (please don't tell me about the children benefitting by learning a "good work ethic"...that's not what I'm asking)

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1. Sorry, I can't show you a long list of "successful graduating Hyde Students" because it doesn't exist. Hyde's percentage of students who go on to live successful lives is very small and many of those successes are not due to Hyde, but to maturity.

2. The ratio of students who enroll and then graduate and go to college is also very low. These are the facts about Hyde's student population.
a.) Students enroll and then drop out after their first year
b.) Students enroll, Hyde holds them back a year for "attitude" to get another years tuition from the parent and will sometimes graduate, sometimes not
c.) Students enroll in Hyde, Hyde gets a full years tuition, then encourages the family to drop out or will actually kick a family out. Hyde keeps the money
d) Student enrolls in Hyde, proceeds to be a senior, gets put on 2-4 for having sex, (with a minor) gets on 2-4 again for doing steroids, is threatened that he won't graduate, then at last minute Hyde gives that wonderful and honorable diploma!! All is well, and at graduation boys are ordered to shake Joe Gauld's hand, girls must give him kiss on cheek!
e.) Student was accepted to Community College after Hyde helps submit 10 applications to any school that will take them. Student either never attends, or attends and drops out.
f.) Student at some point grows up on their own!! Hyde has nothing to do with the growth of this typical student! End of story!

3. Resources available at Hyde are few and far between. New "Scholars program" but mostly unqualified teachers and is equivalent to regular class in normal school. Many stories of kids going back to public or private school and teachers being appalled at the lack of education from Hyde. As far as extra programs that cost money, Hyde has many. If Hyde thinks you have an "attitude problem" they will recommend that your child go to their summer program at a hefty cost! Their are also Wilderness Programs and Family Renewal Programs all at a cost to break your bank! In the end, it does no good.

4. Don't know the exact tuition now, but maybe someone who is familiar with Hyde lately can provide this. I understand that it ends up being around $45,000 plus transportation not only for students, but parents who are required to go up to Hyde at least three times per year.

5. When I was at Hyde the food was edible other than when a student went on 2-4. If you were on 2-4 you were not allowed to have any hot food. Also when we had Family Weekends we got fed much better food. Meal time was very quick. Felt like I couldn't digest my food before running off to get to class.

6. Only one benefiting from free physical labor is school. 2-4 can sometimes be enjoyable as we didn't have to go to class for a week at a time, although did have to wake up very early which was not a big deal. Got behind in class and seldom could make it up, but education is not a priority at Hyde anyway, so no sweat.

Anonymous:
More importantly, what can we do to try and help Hyde? How can we make the board at Hyde see that the Gauld Family is ruining the reputation of what could be a good school if run by qualified educators who truly know the definition of Truth Over Harmony.

Hyde's principles are good and the concept is even better, so question is, can any of us change the terrible things that are going on behind the doors at Hyde? Do any of you have any suggestions other than this internet board that gets our complaints off our chests. Seems like we could be doing more to change things.

Thoughts?

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2006-02-28 11:24:00, Anonymous wrote:

"More importantly, what can we do to try and help Hyde? How can we make the board at Hyde see that the Gauld Family is ruining the reputation of what could be a good school if run by qualified educators who truly know the definition of Truth Over Harmony.

Hyde's principles are good and the concept is even better, so question is, can any of us change the terrible things that are going on behind the doors at Hyde? Do any of you have any suggestions other than this internet board that gets our complaints off our chests. Seems like we could be doing more to change things.

Thoughts?"

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I wholeheartedly agree that it would be great to bring about much needed change at Hyde. The school is full of serious shortcomings and problems. But, to bring about real change, the first step would be for the people who run Hyde to admit they have these serious problems, acknowledge the need for change, and invite people to make suggestions. In all the years I've been involved with Hyde I've NEVER seen the kind of openess and honesty. They speak a good game about truth over harmony, but much of the time they don't live it. The reality is that there's so much inbreeding and defensive arrogance at Hyde that it's unlikely that the mold will change anytime soon. I'm afraid we're beating our heads against the wall. The only hope is that enrollments will drop because of bad publicity, and maybe that will force Hyde staff to admit they've got serious problems.

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2006-02-28 12:35:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2006-02-28 11:24:00, Anonymous wrote:

"More importantly, what can we do to try and help Hyde? How can we make the board at Hyde see that the Gauld Family is ruining the reputation of what could be a good school if run by qualified educators who truly know the definition of Truth Over Harmony.

Hyde's principles are good and the concept is even better, so question is, can any of us change the terrible things that are going on behind the doors at Hyde? Do any of you have any suggestions other than this internet board that gets our complaints off our chests. Seems like we could be doing more to change things.

Thoughts?"

--- End quote ---

I wholeheartedly agree that it would be great to bring about much needed change at Hyde. The school is full of serious shortcomings and problems. But, to bring about real change, the first step would be for the people who run Hyde to admit they have these serious problems, acknowledge the need for change, and invite people to make suggestions. In all the years I've been involved with Hyde I've NEVER seen the kind of openess and honesty. They speak a good game about truth over harmony, but much of the time they don't live it. The reality is that there's so much inbreeding and defensive arrogance at Hyde that it's unlikely that the mold will change anytime soon. I'm afraid we're beating our heads against the wall. The only hope is that enrollments will drop because of bad publicity, and maybe that will force Hyde staff to admit they've got serious problems."

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My gosh, I had to read this post twice to try to remember if I possibly wrote it. You couldn't have expressed my sentiments more accurately. There seem to be more and more people joining this board who have all had the same experiences.

Someone mentioned something about writing our stories. I think this is a great idea and will check it out and post mine.

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