Ridge Creek: Program Effectiveness

[RobertBruce]

On 2005-12-18 16:10:00, Anonymous wrote:

"And this means what? If you look at the total of those amounts, they aren't very much. Not to mention it is not illegal for anybody on that list to contribute to her if they know her. Nothing illegal, once again."

Oh no its not illegal at all. However it does put into question the whole state commendation sponsored by Sen. Jackson. I mean would she still have sponsored the referendum if Buch and the gang werent contributing to her campaign?

Doubtful.

[SHH Anon Classics]

Those campaign contributions are from 2005. The commendation from the State was from March, 2004. She could not have done it due to their contributions because they hadn't been made yet.

[WestSideStud2430]

Four out of five of those have direct or indirect connections to HLA/RCI/ and the whole Buccellato family of programs.  Nothing suspicious at all about this...

[WestSideStud2430]

On 2005-12-18 12:27:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Why would you assume that something illegal took place? It is possible that this senator due to her home town knows about the school and recommended it for a commendation due to her knowledge of it. There is nothing shady about that at all. She happened to be familiar with it. If this action is illegal please inform the rest of us who don't "get it"."

I'll inform you, then.

It's not so much that there's something directly illegal with this connection (at this time).  It's like in a murder case, let's say someone's dead and there's a gun with fingerprints on it and there's this one individual which happened to be there at the time of the murder at the same place and the same time, however evidence can't be gotten or pieced together at the time to prove that he committed it, but everything else is pointing to it.  We're not exactly sure what this connection means.  At the moment.  That's not to say that the truth won't come out, because 99.9% of the time, it always does.  It's just a matter of how long it is.  My point is, if four out of the five sources of donations listed in the following post either directly OR indirectly have to do with HLA, Ridge Creek, or Len Buccellato, I don't necessarily see why Senator Carol Jackson would take time out of her busy schedule to come up to shiny Dahlonega and give a speech for the whole school and put that much time and effort into it, especially given HLA's track record and legal history.  HLA just hasn't been jammed yet because they keep finding back-doors to EVERYTHING, whether it's legal, financial, or just easy ways to get tax breaks and collect money.  The amount of back-doors are shrinking as the days pass though.  Soon, whether it's a week or a year, there will be no more back-doors for HLA to get away from it all with and they'll have to man up and "hold themselves accountable" as they like to grind into our brains.  So much for setting an example on how to hold yourselves accountable.

Nothing's come out of this yet, but something will.  It's too much of a coincedence.  If it's too good to be true, it always is.

[RobertBruce]

On 2005-12-18 17:28:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Those campaign contributions are from 2005. The commendation from the State was from March, 2004. She could not have done it due to their contributions because they hadn't been made yet."

Oh but it might stand to reason they werent first time contributers. We also know from the earlier post a relationship existed between Buch and Jackson prior to the commendation.

[Troll Control]

On 2005-12-18 17:28:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Those campaign contributions are from 2005. The commendation from the State was from March, 2004. She could not have done it due to their contributions because they hadn't been made yet."

I feel a 2004 donation schedule comin' on.  Wonder who will be on it?

Yeah, it makes a lot of sense that people who operate politically only contribute one time or one year.  I have a feeling we'll see the numbers.

[Anonymous]

illegal wasn't the issue.
perhaps those contributions were a little (cheap) thank you for the favor. or the first installment?

[WestSideStud2430]

On 2005-12-18 19:00:00, Anonymous wrote:

"

illegal wasn't the issue.

perhaps those contributions were a little (cheap) thank you for the favor. or the first installment?"

I usually don't like Anon's... but you really struck on somethin good there.  I think I'm feelin that 2005 schedule comin on too...

[SHH Anon Classics]

This is the entire list of contributors...its not ONLY those people listed the first time. There are many others. And if you go to the senator Jackson lines you see that this is the first time they contributed to her name. These contributions were in 2005. The commendation was in 2004, early 2004. Connection??? Only if you're the conspiracy theory paranoid type.

[SHH Anon Classics]

Adams , Stephen C
P.O. Box 1255
Cornelia, GA 30531  03/08/2005  Attorney -
Self  Primary  $500.00  $0.00
 
2  O  Akeley , Florence
P.O. Box 1625
Dahlonega, GA 30533  06/25/2005  Retired -
 Primary  $1,000.00  $0.00
 
3  O  Anthony Consulting Group ,
P.O. Box 8915
Atlanta, GA 31106  04/13/2005  Political Consultant -
Self  Primary  $300.00  $0.00
 
4  O  Ariel , Edward D
P.O. Box 154
Clarkesville, GA 30523  03/09/2005  Banker -
Habersham Bank  Primary  $500.00  $0.00
 
5  O  Arrendale , Gus
P.O. Box 558
Baldwin, GA 30511  03/03/2005  Poultry Production -
Fieldale Corp  Primary  $1,000.00  $0.00
 
6  O  Ash Jr. , Roy
P.O. Box 365
Cleveland, GA 30528  02/28/2005  Farmer -
Self  Primary  $5,000.00  $0.00
 
7  O  Barnes Law Group ,
P.O. Box 489
Marietta, GA 30061  03/07/2005  Attorney -
Self  Primary  $1,000.00  $0.00
 
8  O  Blalock , Barry K
P.O. Box 1849
Cleveland, GA 30528  04/11/2005  Developer -
Self  Primary  $300.00  $0.00
 
9  O  Buccellato , Drew
4590 Northside Dr.
Atlanta, GA 30327  05/16/2005  Head Master -
St. Francis High School  Primary  $150.00  $0.00
 
10  O  Buccellato , John & Susan
3059 Farmington Dr. NW
Atlanta, GA 30339  06/16/2005  Accountant -
Self  Primary  $150.00  $0.00
 
11  O  Burroughs , David
P.O. Box 324
Gainesville, GA 30503  03/10/2005  Attorney -
Self  Primary  $250.00  $0.00
 
12  O  Edwards , Joseph C
5810 Ridge Stone Way
Cumming, GA 30041  05/05/2005  Electrical Worker -
Self  Primary  $200.00  $0.00
 
13  O  Glass , Roger & Sandra
1190 Harbor Ridge Dr
Greensboro, GA 30642  07/06/2005  Developer -
Self  Primary  $1,000.00  $0.00
 
14  O  House , William
P.O. Box 3430
Gainesville, GA 30503  03/09/2005  Attorney -
Self  Primary  $500.00  $0.00
 
15  O  Howard , Pierre
2843 Dover Rd., N.W.
Atlanta, GA 30327  02/16/2005  Attorney -
Self  Primary  $250.00  $0.00
 
16  O  Krise , June
24 Sal Mtn. Way
Sautee-Nacoochee, GA 30571  02/23/2005  Councelor -
Self  Primary  $200.00  $0.00
 
17  O  Moore , Michael J
3584 Valley Dr
Perry, GA 31069  06/15/2005  Attorney -
Self  Primary  $250.00  $0.00
 
18  O  Page , Dr. Janet B
2660 Peachtree Rd
Atlanta, GA 30305  07/06/2005  Psychologist -
Self  Primary  $150.00  $0.00
 
19  O  Quirk , Martin G
110 Hidden Falls Ln. NW
Atlanta, GA 30325-9242  06/17/2005  councelor -
self  Primary  $200.00  $0.00
 
20  O  Ridge Creek, Inc. ,
830 Hidden Lake Rd
Dahlonega, GA 30533  03/30/2005  Investor -
Self  Primary  $2,000.00  $0.00
 
21  O  Stovall , David
P. O. Box 1980
Cornelia, GA 30531  03/09/2005  Banker -
Habersham Bank  Primary  $2,000.00  $0.00
 
22  O  Thomas , Bob E
209 South Main St.
Ellijay, GA 30540  02/01/2005  Retired -
 Primary  $250.00  $0.00
 
23  O  Walker , Joy
197 Jimmy Walker Rd
Dahlonega, GA 30533  06/25/2005  Real Estate Broker -
Self  Primary  $150.00  $0.00
 
24  O  Walters Acceptance Corp ,
P.O. Box 2935
Gainesville, GA 30503  02/22/2005  Real Estate -
Corp  Primary  $5,000.00  $0.00
 
25  O  Wingate , Alton
186 Hillcrest Heights
Cornelia, GA 3028  01/31/2005  Banker -
CB&T  Primary  $5,000.00  $0.00

[RobertBruce]

So what youre saying is, that instead of Buch buying the comendation. Sen. Jackson gave them the comendation as a way of getting political contributions?

My goodness this is bigger than we thought.

Either way it throws the legiltimacy of the comendation into question.

[SHH Anon Classics]

It was a full year before any contributions dumbass. The paranoia is deeper than I thought. One has nothing to do with the other. Since when did it become a crime to support your local congressman/woman? And she is familiar with the school due to her office being in the adjacent county. The only thing deeper is the bullshit some of you spout.

[RobertBruce]

On 2005-12-19 18:52:00, Anonymous wrote:

"It was a full year before any contributions dumbass. The paranoia is deeper than I thought. One has nothing to do with the other. Since when did it become a crime to support your local congressman/woman? And she is familiar with the school due to her office being in the adjacent county. The only thing deeper is the bullshit some of you spout."

Oh my goodness so a whole year passed then? Well then as we know nothing takes longer than one year..ever. I mean the dinosaurs were around for what...an hour and a half?

Its either one or the other..dumbass. Either Buchi and friends bought the commendation, or she bought their support. I mean you said it yourself she is Senator for a different county, thus she would have no direct involvement with them.

I realize as part of your disorder you are incapable of recognizing the truth when it is right in front of you but at least pretend just to save face and move the conversation along.

[SHH Anon Classics]

The truth is you have no clue what you are talking about. You are only guessing that the commendation was bought. You are only guessing that the campaign contributions were only related to the commendation. When, in fact, they could very well be totally separate issues. She is in another county, yes, but White and Lumpkin counties share many things, one of them being the same judicial circuit. They are affiliated in many other ways as well. If they wanted to contribute to her campaign, so what. If she wanted to commend them for the school's anniversary because it's in the same area as her hometown and she is familiar with it so what. I am beginning to think you can't see the forest for the trees, so to speak.

[Anonymous]

What was the point of taking up bandwidth to post the entire list Eistein? Of course there are many others. Can HLA take credit for recruiting any of the 'others'?

The point being- HLA contributions came after 2004.

Paranoid? Ya'll really do love to throw around those psych labels don't ya? Look up the difference between paranoid and skeptic, and save the unwelcomed analysis.

But while we're being 'skeptical', can anyone imagine why they'd desire to be in bed with a woman running for SoS?

Somehow I don't think you're really that ignorant about politics in the industry, but on the outside chance, here's a little 'skeptical' reading for you:
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... forum=49&0
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... forum=49&0